[extropy-chat] flash crowd super computer

Eugen Leitl eugen at leitl.org
Mon Feb 23 20:35:04 UTC 2004

On Mon, Feb 23, 2004 at 12:51:28PM -0600, Damien Broderick wrote:

> Actually, it could be an idea from a Dam Clemmensen post to this forum, 
> cited in THE SPIKE seven years ago--except that Dan's approach to a home 
> brew singularity-grade AI *didn't* require all the machines to be 
> physically `in one place', which is a bizarrely 1940s' idea. But hey.

It isn't as bizarre as it sounds. If you want to be able to talk any machine
to any other without interfering, you need a lot of wire, and a big crossbar
(or equivalent) switch. For many reasons, chiefly because of minimizing fibre
length and because crossbars don't scale nor do long-haul protocols suit to
switching the Internet is a (meshed) tree.

If you bring many machines into one location, and make them talk pure Ethernet
frames instead of TCP/IP over arbitrary carrier you can achieve a far greater
bandwidth crossection (and a vastly smaller latency to boot) with lots less

Having this said, it's largely a synthetic benchmark. A lot of codes rely on
modern interconnect fabric such as Infiniband, Myrinet and SCI. These do make
even GBit Ethernet look very pale in comparison.

An AI to end all AIs won't need a globar crossbar, of course. It should be
able to live on a globally meshed fabric with FastEthernet port equivalent,
on a GBit/10 GBit backbone.

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