[extropy-chat] Enlightenment and the election

[Kevin Freels]

I second that
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Lorrey" <mlorrey at yahoo.com>
To: <andrew at ceruleansystems.com>; "ExI chat list"
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Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 9:36 AM
Subject: Re: [extropy-chat] Enlightenment and the election


> I nominate this post for Post of the Month.
>
> --- "J. Andrew Rogers" <andrew at ceruleansystems.com> wrote:
>
> > Brent Neal wrote:
> > > You know, if the smart folks tend to preferentially vote for
> > someone,
> > > I'd consider that carefully.  Even though our status as educated
> > seems
> > > to attract disdain from you, my experience is that we tend to think
> > > more about our own choices, and not what our preacher tells us to
> > do.
> >
> >
> > There is no evidence in this particular election that the smart folks
> > preferentially voted any one way.  Most self-described big city
> > liberals
> > are as provincial and poorly educated as your average flyover country
> > resident, they just choose to let their ignorance shine in different
> > areas, and tend to believe in the myth of their intellectual skills a
> > little more.  Just because you like a different flavor of Kool-Aid
> > does
> > not change the fact that you are still drinking Kool-Aid.  There is
> > no
> > shortage of tools and frauds on both sides, and being trendy or
> > fashionable is not an indication of credibility.
> >
> >
> > In practice, blue state folks are just as ignorant of science,
> > mathematics, and culture as red state folks.  They just specialize in
> > different sub-areas when it comes to ignorance.  If you do not
> > recognize
> > this (no matter which side you claim to be on), then you are
> > precisely
> > the type of person I am talking about.
> >
> > I do find that some stereotypes tend to be true.  Red-Staters tend to
> > be
> > historians and tend to view things in a historical context, whereas I
> > find that most Blue-Staters have an appalling lack of knowledge of
> > history.  Blue-Staters tend to be more ethnically worldly than
> > Red-Staters, though not to the extent that many Blue-Staters appear
> > to
> > believe.  Red-Staters are more religious on average, but not that
> > much
> > and not in any way that makes a difference, since Blue-Staters have
> > their own quasi-religious belief systems that Red-Staters generally
> > do
> > not share.
> >
> > I tend to find the religious right-wing more tolerable than the
> > "intellectual" left-wing in that the religious right does not try to
> > make any claim as to the superiority of their own brain power as
> > individuals (that is reserved for god), whereas I've found that the
> > intellectual left tends to take the superiority of their thinking
> > skills
> > and knowledge to be axiomatic (and hence whatever garbage may result
> > from it).  Appeals to god are so much cleaner and pleasant in
> > comparison.
> >
> > I don't really fall under either side, and have lived in both "parts"
> > of
> > the country most of my life.  Claiming clear intellectual superiority
> > for team you voted for is hubris born of ignorance.
> >
> >
> > j. andrew rogers
> >
> >
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> =====
> Mike Lorrey
> Vice-Chair, 2nd District, Libertarian Party of NH
> "Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom.
> It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves."
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