[extropy-chat] If the nonUS citizens voted in Nov 2 elections...

Stephen J. Van Sickle sjvans at ameritech.net
Mon Sep 27 17:20:12 UTC 2004


Bah.  It's not humiliating, it's funny.  Who do you think trained those
observers?  The US already has the most closely watched elections in the
world.  Never notice all those poll watchers?  Never been to a polling
place without at least one, usually two, often more.  And they think a
handful of Europeans will make a demonstrable difference?  In their
dreams. 

On Mon, 2004-09-27 at 12:01, Adrian Tymes wrote:
> They said it's a humiliation for some Americans, not
> for America as a whole.  And they're right: there are
> some Americans who are humiliated that other Americans
> have enough cause to mistrust the ostensibly
> world-class American voting process that they feel it
> necessary to bring in foreign observers.
> 
> --- Alfio Puglisi <puglisi at arcetri.astro.it> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Note that the OSCE is there at the request of some
> > US congressmen
> > and the State Department, so it's hardly an
> > "humiliation" for American
> > people as slashdot says.
> > 
> > Alfio
> > 
> > On Mon, 27 Sep 2004, Giu1i0 Pri5c0 wrote:
> > 
> > >Slashdot, September 27, 2004: The United States is
> > known as being the
> > >world's most stable democracy. But since the
> > Florida 2000 fiasco,
> > >things have changed. Europe's famous Organisation
> > for Security and
> > >Co-operation in Europe (OSCE) will now be
> > monitoring the U.S.
> > >elections. The institution normally monitors
> > elections in third world
> > >countries in transition, and in crisis areas or
> > regions where civil
> > >wars have destabilized the political process. In
> > november, the OSCE
> > >will be monitoring local and state elections in
> > Kazakhstan, Skopje,
> > >Eastern Congo, Ouagadougou and... the United
> > States. As the BBC
> > >reports, for some Americans this comes as a
> > humiliation; others see it
> > >as a necessity, since they have lost trust in the
> > American election
> > >process.
> > >The BBC article says: There have certainly been
> > objections to the
> > >involvement of foreign monitors in the domestic
> > affairs of a country
> > >which sees itself as a beacon of democracy. Of
> > course the discussion
> > >of Slashdot is more heated.
> >
> >http://politics.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/09/26/2217230&tid=226&tid=103&tid=219
> > >_______________________________________________
> > >extropy-chat mailing list
> > >extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org
> >
> >http://lists.extropy.org/mailman/listinfo/extropy-chat
> > >
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > extropy-chat mailing list
> > extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org
> >
> http://lists.extropy.org/mailman/listinfo/extropy-chat
> > 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> extropy-chat mailing list
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org
> http://lists.extropy.org/mailman/listinfo/extropy-chat




More information about the extropy-chat mailing list