[extropy-chat] RFID smartcard passports and driver's licenses

Extropian Agroforestry Ventures Inc. megao at sasktel.net
Fri Apr 8 03:03:30 UTC 2005

If you are worried about info war self defense use the same tactics that 
have worked in
"the good old  days".... such as:

To prevent someone putting charges against property  or transfering away 
property simple place a
caveat against your own property made out to yourself for about the same 
as the fair market value
of your property.  If you have to mortgage it, it can come off until the 
mortgage is paid and then go back on.

Nobody is going to steal something worthless.

In an electronic sense you can establish a second "secure" identity that 
does not make any financial or other transactions
except the sort of thing above.  That secures your major assets.  

sort of like the public/private key on encryption.......

If someone steals your car or a credit card those things have 
financially balancing protections.

So there are ways to secure yourself and your identity, even in "the 
brave new world"


Mike Lorrey wrote:

>--- Dustin Wish with INDCO Networks <dwish at indco.net> wrote:
>>I think we are a long way off for that anyway. There are no real
>>set in place yet. If is at least a 20 year circle to TTM on these
>>to be mass used. You are also taking into account or assume that the
>>financial databases (very closely guarded) will be opened to the
>>or hackers for use to screen. Most companies will not share
>>information like
>>that with the government. They don't really want them knowing how
>>business they are doing and to whom, because you can't trust the
>>to keep that info confidential. 
>The Gramm-Leach-Blyly Act indicates the government knows exactly what
>information is out there. The recent hacking of the ChoicePoint
>networks means that there are tens of millions of names on the loose in
>the hackosphere.
>As for RFID, all companies claiming RFID serial number name space have
>to register a claim just as they have to for an IP address. There are
>no two identical RFID numbers.
>>Companies use demographics currently to help understand what their
>>customers needs are, but that is a far cry from  big brother
>>tracking everyone's movements nationwide. That is to assume that the
>>government can develop and effectively use this technology which
>>anyone who was dealt with big brother knows is full of bureaucracy
>>BS and people that couldn't make it in the private sector. I don't
>>know if I should be more scared of the technology or the
>>unaccountable government employee using it.
>The thing you are missing is that as RFID becomes ubiquitous, a hacker
>doesn't need access to a database anymore to rip off your identity, it
>is ALL sitting on your person in the form of chips ready to transmit
>your personal information like Kitty Kelly playing a crack whore. 
>Here is me, a hacker, walking by on a crowded street: BAM, I have your
>drivers license/ID: I know your name, where you live, what vehicle
>ratings you have (or don't have, which could indicate a criminal record
>you want to keep private), your physical description, a photograph,
>even your blood type. BAM: I have your passport chip, so I have your
>SSN, a cross correlation with your residence address.
>BAM: I can at the very least identify what credit cards you keep on
>your person, your account numbers and possibly even your expiration
>date. Since I already have your residential address I have a pretty
>good idea of what your billing address is, and as I have your birth
>date and SSN I have a good start on figuring out what your account pin
>numbers are.
>BAM: I know what shoes you are wearing, what underwear you are wearing
>(you ladies take note), your jacket, briefcase, and what stores you
>have customer loyalty cards with.
>I don't need to decrypt anything on the fly, if anything is encrypted,
>I can have my home beowulf cluster crunch on the numbers for several
>weeks. BAM: I own you. I can submit what I know about you to equifax
>claiming you are applying for a job or an apartment. Now I have your
>credit history. I can create fake id that is as authentic as you are. I
>can take out a mortgage in your name (have fun making the payments). I
>can file a change of address/ seasonal address form with the USPS, set
>up a post office box in your name.
>This is just ONE passerby. Walking down the street in New York, I can
>rip off hundreds or thousands of people every hour. Now, you could
>likely get the bank to write off the mortgage as fraud. So long as I
>get the cash before that happens, I could rip off hundreds of people a
>week for hundreds of thousands of dollars each.
>Lets say you have a higher level of card in your pocket. Say, a Schwab
>card that is secured by your stock portfolio. I only need to know you
>have the card, maybe the card number. Then I call into Schwab, give the
>number, and social-engineer the dumb call center worker into giving up
>your password. I can now transfer stocks out of your account into
>another account, then cash that account out. BAM, your whole life is
>wiped out.
>Are you getting that cold sinking feeling, yet?
>Mike Lorrey
>Vice-Chair, 2nd District, Libertarian Party of NH
>"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom.
>It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves."
>                                      -William Pitt (1759-1806) 
>Blog: http://intlib.blogspot.com
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