Small government was Re: [extropy-chat] EMP Attack?

Adrian Tymes wingcat at
Tue Apr 19 17:10:49 UTC 2005

--- Mike Lorrey <mlorrey at> wrote:
> --- Joseph Bloch <jbloch at> wrote:
> > Mmm-hmm. Perhaps a review of
> > 
> > is in order. In it you'll note that not only is the whole "861
> scam" 
> > bunkum, but also that folks who use it get indicted (texts of
> > specific cases and links on the above link) and put in jail.
> You are lying here, because noplace on the referenced site does it
> say
> anyone has gone to jail.

Mike is correct, that site doesn't appear to say that anyone has
actually gone to jail.  But there are other sites that do, for instance

> So far, 2001 has been a very bad year for those promoting fraudulent
> trusts.  Just ask the Hendersons.  Dorothy Henderson will be spending
> the next 11 years at "Club Fed, " no doubt rethinking her mindless
> argument that the U.S. government lacks jurisdiction over her and
> that IRC Sec. 861 (a provision that applies to foreign taxpayers)
> somehow excludes U.S. residents and citizens from our tax laws. [See
> the IRS Press Release]  The judge was so unimpressed with this
> frivolous claim, that when Mrs. Henderson defiantly argued at her
> sentencing hearing that she was exempt from taxes, he gave her an
> extra 6 months in the pokey!  Her husband, George Henderson, received
> 6.5 years in jail.
> Both defendants were sentenced to the longest permissible prison term
> under the federal sentencing guidelines. In sentencing the
> defendants, Judge Burrell stated that they had shown "outright
> defiance" and "disrespect for the tax laws of this nation," and that
> the only way to deter them from future violations of the law was "to
> put them away for as long as the law allows." 

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