AnarchoCyphertopian technologies (wasRE: [extropy-chat] Reccommendations for a mailing list)

[Dirk Bruere]

Eugen Leitl wrote:

>>The answer to spam and virus writing/dispersal lies within the wider 
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>No. Solutions exist, they're not being deployed. People are the problem, not
>technology.
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That *is* the 'wider community'.

>You can't solve people-domain problems with technology as long that
>technology doesn't have an intrinsic sufficient incitement, or its 
>absence sufficiently penalized. You can't make people think and act.
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>>If the penalties for both were severe the problem would be vastly reduced.
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>Great! Crack down on Microsoft, mandate use of hardened, secure systems. 
>Both spam and virus problem almost instantly almost completely disappears.
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If it works, fine.

>>Spam is money motivated. Make it non-cost effective to both advertise via 
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>Great! Lets make money flow realtime inspectable and controlled... er... perhaps not.
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And nobody has any idea what people and companies use spammers?
Don't they actually include some contact details in their spam, or have 
I missed something?

>>spam and to perform the actual spamming. Full confiscation of assets and 
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>Charge money for email, make senders fully authenticated. 
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>What a stupid idea.
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>>lengthy jail time for a start.
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>Have fun tracking down some random spammer in Malaysia, or Tunisia. What do
>you propose, having them extreme sanctioned by a special force team? Great.
>Cost effective, makes for a great press.
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I suggest that such countries be made to take these problems seriously.
Mandatory blocking of net traffic from ISPs within nations that fail to 
implement effective anti-spam laws might be a good way to start.

>>Redefine deliberate virus promulgation as terrorism and prosecute and 
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>A terrorist jaywalker crossed the street before me today. I blew him away
>with my bazooka. That will teach'em, them terrorists jaywalkers. I intend to
>start on parking violation terrorists and overdressing terrorists, next.
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>Killin' is too good for them.
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No, killin' is exactly good enough.
I rather like the Chinese way of doing things.
The bill for the bullet can be sent to the virus writers family.

>>punish accordingly. After a few life sentences (no parole) have been handed 
>>down I suspect the problem would fade significantly.
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>Yes! That's the spirit! Tape them to streetlights, and let crows pluck out
>their eyes! Will make them realize. Make them movie sharer terrdurists ride 
>the lightning!!!1
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Simple life in prison will suffice.
IIRC there's a case coming up for sentence in the US concerning a 
spammer who's looking at ten years (we can but hope...)

-- 
Dirk

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