[extropy-chat] Trees and EVs

[Extropian Agroforestry Ventures Inc.]

Urilizing a robotic tree pruning system that runs on a combination of 
electric/methanol fuel cells  and extracting valuable bioactives from 
the tree biomass would make even an energy in = energy out marginal 
biomass productivity
system economically viable.

Dan Clemmensen wrote:

> Kevin Freels wrote:
>
>> So who wants to start work developing a home solar/wind combo 
>> re-charging
>> station?
>>
>>  
>>
> OK, now we have it: Grow trees and leave them standing: they sequester 
> carbon as they grow.
>
> Harvest the fallen leaves in the fall into big leaf piles. Convert the 
> leaves into methanol and/or methane
> as needed. Any extra leaves can be sequestered to given to folks who 
> have no trees.
>
> Convert the methanol and/or methane into electricity to charge the EV 
> and run the home electrical system
>
> Use the process heat to heat/cool the house.
>
> The major advantage of this approach is that you can implement it 
> locally, with no
> infrastructure.
>
> The major disadvantages are two-fold:
> 1) high capital cost.
> 2) high complexity.
>
> OK, how many tons of leaves do we need to do this? Research the 
> following: for each, identify
> the capital costs and the conversion factor.
>
> 1) Leaves-> methanol/methane
> 2) methane-> electricity
> 3) methanol->electricity
> 4) Acres (eastern US) ->leaves.
> 5) electricity->road miles.
>
> Note: those of us with private septic systems can generate additional 
> methane.
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