[extropy-chat] The Force of Human Freedom[was-isAmericafascistyet?]

Hubert Mania humania at t-online.de
Sun Jan 30 20:48:28 UTC 2005


I am no man of action who knows a solution for every problem in the world.
This is one of the few things I am definitely proud of: To be able to admit
that I, personally, do not have a solution for two or three of the major
problems in the world. My criticism of american politics is built upon the
illegal invasion of a country that had nothing to do with 9-11.

If any islamist assault should happen in Germany, it will be persecuted in
the frame of the rule of law, a decent country feels obligated to. This
means police action instead of waging a real war with military force.

humania


----- Original Message -----
From: "Greg Burch" <gregburch at gregburch.net>
To: "ExI chat list" <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>
Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2005 7:23 PM
Subject: RE: [extropy-chat] The Force of Human
Freedom[was-isAmericafascistyet?]


> I don't understand your position, in which you feel justified in making
the bitterest criticisms of the policies advocated by others, but repeatedly
retreat to the statement that you have no solution to offer.  You say "they
DID NOT blow up anything here yet."  Perhaps that's because they've been
using Germany as a safe haven for organizing and recruiting since the 1968
Olympics, taking advantage of Germany's pacifist culture.  Just as a
hypothetical, what policies would you support if Islamofascist attacks
WITHIN Germany began?
>
> GB
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org
> > [mailto:extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org]On Behalf Of Hubert Mania
> > Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2005 10:32 AM
> > To: ExI chat list
> > Subject: Re: [extropy-chat] The Force of Human Freedom
> > [was-isAmericafascistyet?]
> >
> >
> > Greg Burch asked:
> >
> > It seems clear that there is a large population of unassimilated
> > Muslims in
> > Europe.  Based on my own research, I conclude that the large, younger
> > segment of this population is increasingly radicalized and inclined to
> > religiously-motivated violence.  Do you agree?  If so, do you have any
> > proposed solution to this?
> > ________________________________
> >
> > I have nothing but contempt for the islamofascists who demonstrate their
> > inhumanity by beheading innocent foreign civilists. But could it be,
they
> > behave that way because the us invaded iraq?
> >
> > Yes, it seems to be true, that 9-11-2001 was planned in Hamburg. But I
> > cannot confirm there is an increasingly segment of Muslim
> > population that is
> > radicalized. And even if this should have been testified by people who
had
> > access to their conspiratively acting teams . . . so what, they
> > DID NOT blow
> > up anything here yet.
> >
> > And  . . . no, I have no solution to offer. I have no fear when I walk
> > through the streets of Hamburg or Berlin. If I happen to be among the
> > victims of an islamofascist assault . . . well, too bad then . .
> > .but I will
> > not let my mind be aflame with an imaginary threat. In this
> > respect, german
> > citizens are fortunately not kept in a permanent state of alert
> > and fear by
> > government propagangda or a press which functions as a party
> > mouthpiece. Or
> > at least, let's say, the atmosphere is much more relaxed than in
> > the usa. In
> > the end it depends on WHAT kind of propaganda you prefer to believe.
> >
> > humania
> >
> >
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