[extropy-chat] Call for contributions: "Intro to H+" book

[Bret Kulakovich]

Greg Bear's _Eon_ touched on this in spots - characters w/o noses, and 
some radicals that were more fish-like or a pattern of random 
convenience.

To build on the notion of  "squishy sentimentalism" - which I like, and 
find as a great reference - it is obvious I think that some things will 
remain well outside our understanding until we do change form. The 
limit to our current space suit isn't just biological, but may be 
logical as well.

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On Jan 30, 2005, at 5:15 AM, Samantha Atkins wrote:

> Why would i want a human body or something that remotely resembles one 
> if I am truly posthuman and thus most of my needs and interests are no 
> longer best served by such a form?   I would only don such a grossly 
> limited form on a whim or due to some temporary need.   Our squishy 
> sentimentalism toward our current form is symptomatic of much that 
> makes it unlikely that more than a handful of originally human 
> sentients will ever become truly posthuman.
>
> -s
>
> On Jan 28, 2005, at 9:08 PM, Diego Caleiro wrote:
>
>>
>>  In a posthuman world, would we really need clothes?
>>
>> suppose that we keep antropomorphic, in this case, the religious 
>> beleifs of
>> sin will have died out, and nobody would need to use clothes for this
>> reason...    the cold weather would affect us much less, since we 
>> could have
>> heat controls in our body, no need for clothing.
>>
>> If we do not choose to be antropomorphic, as most people here say we 
>> won't,
>> then we woul be able to change our shape faster then the fashion 
>> could create
>> clothes for us....
>>
>> Diego (Log At)
>>
>>
>>
>> Em Sexta 28 Janeiro 2005 23:36, Extropian Agroforestry Ventures Inc. 
>> escreveu:
>>> Given human past tendancies to exterminate those who have some
>>> difference in outward appearance it would be best if a poshuman 
>>> would be
>>> like a camelion.... keep a relatively human appearance while in the
>>> company of the old-style humans and transhumans in public and adopt  
>>> a
>>> more unique appearance in private.
>>>
>>> Alternatively generate a hologram  to customize outward appearances  
>>> to
>>> the percieved comfort level of the observer.  Essentially clothes 
>>> could
>>> be replaced by a hologram to mask  more functional body function and
>>> body maintence suits.
>>>
>>> Diego Caleiro wrote:
>>>> That depends on what do you mean by posthumanism, if you were 
>>>> talking
>>>> about what most people would choose to look like, in, say 500 
>>>> years, then
>>>> probably yes, there would be a difference between the human body 
>>>> and the
>>>> post human.
>>>>
>>>> But the definition of posthuman is simply a matter of enhanced 
>>>> human, and
>>>> it is possible to enhance yourself keeping your external 
>>>> appearence. As
>>>> most tranhumanist would agree, each person should have his right to 
>>>> not
>>>> change his appearence, if so he wishes.
>>>>
>>>> Diego (Log At)
>>>>
>>>> Em Sexta 28 Janeiro 2005 13:47, Ned Late escreveu:
>>>>> However transhumanism is the precursor to posthumanism, and 
>>>>> wouldn't
>>>>> posthumanism be a rejection of the human body as we know it?
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hara Ra <harara at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>>> But some of us like our bodies, and see transhumanism as an 
>>>>>> extension of
>>>>>> humanity, not a rejection of the body.....
>>>>>
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