[extropy-chat] Who thinks the Bush admin lied over Iraq?Onwhatbasis?

[Mike Lorrey]

--- Brett Paatsch <bpaatsch at bigpond.net.au> wrote:
> 
> IF Bush ordered the invasion of Iraq illegally. And you supported
> him would you be, in your view, a thug coddler?

Whether Bush had bad intel is irrelevant to the issue of whether the
invasion was illegal. Saddam's refusal to cooperate with the arms
inspectors, for instance, plus an entire decade of violations of the
Gulf War cease-fire agreement, were far more important IMHO. Bush (as
well as every other UN SC member) was obligated to enforce all UN
resolutions being violated by Iraq, including a number that had nothing
to do with WMD.

> 
> IF you didn't support him but didn't oppose him either would you 
> be a thug coddler?
> 
> IF you participated in his re-election would you be a thug coddler?
> 
> I am mindful of something that Spike said. Iraq may be on the
> eve of construction. I am mindful that democracy is a good thing
> or certainly a better thing than most of the alternatives.
> 
> But if someone runs into your clubroom and kills or chases away
> the president and committee members of your club then arranges
> a new election. An election in which the club members that were
> chased away or fled in fear of their lives did not agree to
> participate in. Then is the result democracy?

Your analogy is bad. If someone holds a gun to the head of every member
and says, "vote for me or die", wins his 'election', and is then
deposed by an outside group that then ensures free and fair elections,
is the result democracy? Sure it is.

> 
> What about if they run into your house, shoot you, frighten your
> wife away and set up an election amongst your shocked children?

Where Saddam is in the role of Big Daddy? Your strawman is hardly representative.

Mike Lorrey
Vice-Chair, 2nd District, Libertarian Party of NH
"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom.
It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves."
                                      -William Pitt (1759-1806) 
Blog: http://intlib.blogspot.com


		
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