[extropy-chat] Who thinks the Bush admin lied over Iraq? Onwhatbasis?

Brett Paatsch bpaatsch at bigpond.net.au
Sat Jul 16 02:15:46 UTC 2005


Mike Lorrey wrote:

> --- Brett Paatsch <bpaatsch at bigpond.net.au> wrote:
> 
>> Damien Sullivan wrote:
>> 
>> > On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 12:43:44PM +1000, Brett Paatsch wrote:
>> >
>> >> meaning the US, or the Bush administration, (I'm not part of
>> >> any of those "we") deliberately lied or misrepresented the reasons
>> >> for invading Iraq.
>> >
>> > There's also wilful delusion, misrepresentation to self.  And
>> > choosing to listen to the Defense Dept. instead of the State
>> > when Defense says "we'll be welcomed" and State says 
>> > "uh, maybe not".
>> >
>> > As for Bush's intentions, this might be disturbing:
>> > http://www.gnn.tv/articles/article.php?id=761
>> 
>> Just a quick note Damien S. to let you know I did not overlook
>> this post.   I found your link interesting, writers that can get
>> close to people who want to tell their story, can tend to be
>> good (ie. informative and systematic if reluctant) witnesses as
>> to what the would-be story teller or public-persona builder
>> (the politician) was actually like, and thinking, at a certain point
>> in time, thanks.
>> 
>> Writers tend to know that of course and are often not super
>> eager to be called forward or subpoenaed as witnesses against
>> people in power, especially whilst they are still in power,
>> afterwards of course, 'everyone' has an inside story.
> 
> Keep in mind that GNN is produced by Pauly Shore's production
> company. Thats even worse than depending on the Daily Show 
> for accurate news journalism.

Okay thanks for the warning. I've never heard of Pauly Shore or 
the Daily Show they must be American phenomenon. 

With respect to the link that Damien S. provided though, yes it
happens to be on the GNN site. But that doesn't seem relevant
to me. 

The Author's name, Russ Baker, is right there at the top of it.

At the bottom Russ Baker is said to be an award-winnning 
independent journalist who has been published in The New York
Times, The Nation, Washington Post, The Telegraph (UK), 
Sydney Morning-Herald, and Der Spiegal, among many others.

So, GNN's credibility or Paul Shorey's isn't the issue, unless they
are pretending that what was not really written by Russ Baker was.

This is easily solved. Ask Russ Baker did he right the article.

Would you like to ask him or shall I ?

I will happily ask his if I can get hold of an email address or
any sort of contact point. Authors are not usually reluctant to
claim credit for their work or to slow to deny that what has
been attributed to them falsely was not them.

Would you like to ask him?

Regards,
Brett Paatsch




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