[extropy-chat] Gay marriage in Spain, a world of change

[Robert Lindauer]

Harvey Newstrom wrote:

>>> On Jul 20, 2005, at 11:08 PM, Mike Lorrey wrote:
>>>
>>>> Quite a number of these things can be contracted, Harvey. You are 
>>>> being
>>>> disengenuous in claiming otherwise.
>>>
>>>
>>> Please point them out, Mike.  Many gay couples would seriously be
>>> interested.  I know of no way that a gay couple can contract for any
>>> of these items between themselves.  Even if they did, the contracts are
>>> not enforceable.  Third parties can and do deny these benefits on the
>>
>
> OK, Mike.  You are totally right.  Quite a number of these items can 
> be contracted via a business partnership (like an S-corp).  I totally 
> forgot about that possibility, even though I am currently in an 
> S-corp.  This certainly does create a legal partnership between the 
> members that given them rights or privileges in relationship to each 
> other.
>
> I do object to some of the items that you claim can be solved, because 
> I don't think they are solved by your suggestions.  I list these below 
> for discussion purposes, but want to stress that these do not refute 
> your overall claim.  I agree with your main premise, and found the 
> majority of your suggestions very well thought out.


Being a member of an S-Corp requires some financial resources and 
business smarts that -most people who just want to get married- don't 
necessarily have.  Is it fair that only business-savvy people are 
allowed to have marriage-relationships?  Are marriage relationships 
really -only- financial arrangements?  How sad.

As long as we're social engineering, we have to look out for who we're 
social-engineering - who benefits from our social engineering project.  
The world where only wealthy well-educated people can enjoy the benefits 
of marriage is a sad one indeed.

Robbie Lindauer