[extropy-chat] Final thought on Schiavo

Mike Lorrey mlorrey at yahoo.com
Mon Mar 28 01:15:18 UTC 2005


--- Al Brooks <kerry_prez at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I don't care about the institution of marriage, but power of attorney
> mean something. Her husband does have POA.
>  If he says his wife wanted to die then we have to take him at his
> word, since no foul play has been documented--instead there are
> merely rumors. 
> Mike, did the husband ever mention suspension? Did he say he doesn't
> want Terry suspended?
> 

Not merely rumors, there are documented records that her blood
chemistry was thrown off after each of a number of his visits in a way
which could only be explained by injections of potassium chloride,
which would have exacerbated her condition to what it is today.

If he specifically says he does want her cremated then it logically
follows that he does not want her suspended.

> Mike Lorrey <mlorrey at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Not only does he not want her suspended, he specifically wants her
> cremated and is fighting against requests by her parents that she be
> autopsied after her death. It is extremely fishy.
> 
> --- Al Brooks wrote:
> > Has anyone thought to ask Schiavo if he would let his
> > wife be cryonically suspended, that is to say if
> > someone else were to fund it? 
> > It would be the greatest publicity to h+; more so than
> > Ted Williams.
> > It's not too late, there's perhaps a day left.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- Samantha Atkins wrote:
> > > It is pretty standard practice in such cases to do
> > > the necessary tests. 
> > > There is no way that any competent hospital would
> > > fail to perform or 
> > > court fail to have performed the needed tests to
> > > determine the 
> > > patient's prognosis, especially in a case this
> > > publicized and 
> > > politicized. If you have proof otherwise then it
> > > is your burden to 
> > > present it if you want to make such claims without
> > > looking like a 
> > > complete crank.
> > > 
> > > - samantha
> > > 
> > > On Mar 26, 2005, at 3:53 PM, Mike Lorrey wrote:
> > > 
> > > >
> > > > --- Samantha Atkins wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> On Mar 26, 2005, at 6:00 AM, Mike Lorrey wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> Lets make one thing perfectly clear: Terri
> > > Schiavo's responsiveness
> > > >> is
> > > >>> no less than the responsiveness of Stephen
> > > Hawking. Stephen just
> > > >> has a
> > > >>> lot of high tech gizmos he's had years to learn
> > > to use to make
> > > >> himself
> > > >>> useful in the world. Terri has been denied the
> > > same opportunities
> > > >> by
> > > >>> her husband and remains in a condition that
> > > Stephen would be in
> > > >> today
> > > >>> given a similar level of neglect.
> > > >>
> > > >> This is the most empty and baseless assertion i
> > > believe I have ever
> > > >> seen from you. Comparing one of the finest minds
> > > of our age to a
> > > >> woman
> > > >> who by every test we can administer is mentally
> > > unfortunately little
> > > >> more than a vegetable shows a patent disregard of
> > > reality. Why are
> > > >> you just looking at the outside an ignoring
> > > everything we know and
> > > >> can
> > > >> test?
> > > >
> > > > What is empty and baseless is the assertion that
> > > Terri is brain dead,
> > > > in a coma, or a vegetable, all characterizations
> > > only of her husbands
> > > > lawyers and their hand picked and paid expert
> > > medical witnesses (who
> > > > will say whatever you want for the right fee).
> > > >
> > > > There HAS BEEN NO TESTING of Terri's mental
> > > capacity. A fellow who has
> > > > the technology to test not only her mental
> > > capacity but whether she
> > > > wants to live or not is currently under legal
> > > consideration, and the
> > > > judge is ticked that nobody told him about this
> > > before.
> > > >
> > > > Mike Lorrey
> > > > Vice-Chair, 2nd District, Libertarian Party of NH
> > > > "Necessity is the plea for every infringement of
> > > human freedom.
> > > > It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of
> > > slaves."
> > > > -William
> > > Pitt (1759-1806)
> > > > Blog: http://intlib.blogspot.com
> > > >
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> Mike Lorrey
> Vice-Chair, 2nd District, Libertarian Party of NH
> "Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom.
> It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves."
> -William Pitt (1759-1806) 
> Blog: http://intlib.blogspot.com
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Mike Lorrey
Vice-Chair, 2nd District, Libertarian Party of NH
"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom.
It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves."
                                      -William Pitt (1759-1806) 
Blog: http://intlib.blogspot.com


		
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