[extropy-chat] Qualia Bet.

[gts]

On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 12:30:34 -0500, The Avantguardian  
<avantguardian2020 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> --- gts <gts_2000 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Dualism implies something ghostly and non-physical.
>
> This might be splitting hairs, but physics is riddled
> with "ghostly" phenomena... If
> bosons can be quantumly entangled and the soul is
> composed of them, then it is quite possible for a
> system of entangled bosons to maintain itself
> independently of a material substrate.

Yes, in fact phase entanglement is one argument from science for the  
pan-psychism that I've suggested here. If your idea is true then your  
self-label of "sophisticated dualist/mystic" is a departure from the  
traditional meaning of dualism and may better be described as sort of  
physical monism.

The greater debate about consciousness can be seen as one between  
emergentism and pan-psychism. The pan-psychist rejects the idea that mind  
is a separate, novel property that emerges by some seeming miracle out of  
inert matter. He believes instead that if mind exists, it must be present  
at some level in all matter.

Brent rejects emergentism, which is why I suggested pan-psychism.

-gts