[extropy-chat] Alternative toCryowasTheAmazingCellularRepairdevice

Brett Paatsch bpaatsch at bigpond.net.au
Mon Oct 17 23:44:17 UTC 2005

John K Clark wrote:

> "Brett Paatsch" <bpaatsch at bigpond.net.au>
>> tRNAs just give us something like amino acid beads
>> on a string they don't create (ie. construct) 3 dimensional
>> functional proteins.
> Because a unique amino acid sequence in a unique environment produces a
> unique 3 dimensional structure your objection eludes me.

Well, Eugen got it, so I know my objection was made clear
enough to someone.

>> not just proteins, but dna
> DNA is child's play to make compared with proteins.
>> and lipids and sugars
> Ditto, except even easier to make.
>> and mitochondria
> Mostly RNA and like all nucleic acids very easy to make compared with
> proteins.

Easy for biology working in water yes. Not easy for mechanosystems or
Drexlerian nanotechnology

>> I was using flesh as shorthand for the biological brain made up of
>> proteins and lipids etc
> I understand that, what I don't understand is why you think anyone would
> even bother making such a thing when they had a better technology that was 
> a
> billion times faster and used a billion times less recourse.

I don't think anyone will bother. I think in the future 'everyone' will be
smart enough to see that cryonics was a pipedream born of a particular
level of understanding of science and engineering much as embalming
Egyptian pharohs with the hope of getting them back to life was a
pipedream, much as you and I, I imagine, see religious resurrection as
a pipedream.

> Would it be
> physically possible to make an Apple computer out of vacuum tubes or
> electrical relays that can run modern software? Yes.

No. Because vaccum tubes are physically bigger. You'd need so many
of them that noone familiar with a normal Apple computer would be able
to look at the construct and kid themselves that that thing was actually
an Apple computer like the sort they are familiar with.

> Will anyone bother to
> actually do so? No, the idea is ridiculous.

So we agree that aiming to reconstruct a biological person in flesh is

You agree with me that its 'uploading or nothing' ?

Brett Paatsch 

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