[extropy-chat] peak oil debate - "happy as a pig in shit"

[Lifespan Pharma Inc.]

Most of the world has more marginal curcumstances than Hawaii.
So for us we have to have a valuable extractive, bio-pharm or complex 
bioactive to feed the money machine
to grow the biomass.
Marginal production will in time be enhanced by modification of plant 
chemistry or growth cycles.
The cellulose based ethanol and fuel-cell use cycle is a handy way to 
get the last drop of good from
biomass but for most of us it only works if the rest of the production 
economics stand on their own
without considering the salvage value of the biomass.

With logistical energy costs escalated, the micro-scale distance 
insensitive local production of low value
products combines well with exporting to distant uses small physical 
quantities of high value materials.

For me here it is cannabis.  the oilseed is middling value and justifies 
long distance logistical cycles for
processing and use.  The fibre must be bio-procesed and used in as short 
distances as possible.

However bioextractives however produced which have an exponent or high 
multiple value which
can build and carry the whole production process.

I have not read most of this string so the comments might be way 
offbase... the pig in (shit) just caught my eye.

> People have been using refuse from sugar cane for fertilizer and feed 
> for centuries.  If you process the whole plant instead of refined 
> sugar, you get high grade protein feed and fertilizer suitable for 
> replanting and/or pig-feed which is useful out here where Lau Lau 
> rules.  Ever hear the expression "happy as a pig" - comes from the 
> pigs eating the still-slightly-alcohol-infused mash-waste from a 
> distillation process.  Makes good tasting pigs too - good food comes 
> from happy animals :)
>
>> Comes from when man or nature dumps
>> plant waste en masse. Now considered 12 times more greenhousey than
>> CO2, and plants don't absorb it from the atmosphere like they do CO2.
>>  
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>
> Did your mother drop you on your head or something?  Alcohol or 
> biodeisel procession of plant waste renders useful byproducts such as 
> fertilizer and energy, making it smart and wise to convert.  Here in 
> Hawaii we in fact have a major problem with excess green-waste (stuff 
> grows so fast here you gotta cut your lawn twice a week just to keep 
> it below your ankles - I compost it and put it on my lawn but lots of 
> people don't).  If those plants were then either composted properly 
> and/or processed using a nicely bred yeast we could turn our wate 
> management nightmare into an economic boon.
>
> Robbie
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