[extropy-chat] The Hidden Luddite was Re: peak oil debate

Samantha Atkins sjatkins at mac.com
Thu Sep 8 10:53:20 UTC 2005


You are much to erudite for me to believe that you are unaware that  
libertarianism is not defined by "no government at all on high  
principle" as you earlier this evening put it.   I guess a poor  
libertarian minarchist like myself should go bond with socialists.  :-)

- samantha

On Sep 8, 2005, at 1:32 AM, Brett Paatsch wrote:

> Samantha Atkins wrote:
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>> Excuse me but libertarianism is compatible with various answers  
>> to  how much government is useful.  It is not a position of "no   
>> government" although one faction of libertarian thought does have   
>> that answer for the question.   Please use labels responsibly or  
>> not  at all.
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> I don't know *how* :-)
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> How, that is, to have a discussion about labels like libertarian  
> and to
> be sure that I am doing so responsibly by all the possible meanings
> of the word others may have put on it.
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> When I think of libertarian thought I think of the ideas of Bentham  
> and
> James and John Stuart Mills (who wrote _On Liberty_) and a bunch
> of others that followed afterward. I think I could do a reasonable  
> job of
> placing the idea (meme) into some sort of historical context and  
> follow its
> development but I don't know that I can do much of a job at all of  
> using
> the word responsibly when the point is really to find out what the  
> word
> means to other people that identify with it.
>
> Its helpful for me to know what libertarianism means to individual
> people who identify with the term. Its also interesting to see why
> people identify with the Principles of Extropy.
>
> Wouldn't you be interested in hearing how people who do or do not
> identify with the term libertarian identify with the principles of  
> extropy?
>
> Seems to me that there is unlikely to be a single correct answer but
> there might be a number of *interesting* answers.
>
> Brett Paatsch
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