[extropy-chat] A few points of interest for future historians

Marc Geddes m_j_geddes at yahoo.com.au
Sat Sep 24 09:13:30 UTC 2005


Given all the ad hominem attacks and condescending remarks made by Wilson and Yudkowsky against me on the SL4 list, I think it's only fair that I point out to futuire historians a few things of interest don't you?
 
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*Who first started making reference to '7 Universal Knowledge Domains' ?
 
Answer:  It was Geddes, as shown by numerous references to '7 Universal Knowledge Domains' by Geddes on public mailing lists long before anyone else.
 
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*Who first suggested that the Bayesian framework as it existed circa turn of the 21st century was seriously incomplete?
 
Answer:  It was Geddes.  Where as Wilson and Yudkowsky thought that the notion of 'causality' was entirely reducible to fundamental physics (as shown by explicit statements on the SL4 list) Geddes disputed this.  In fact on this very Extropy list, Geddes just recently stated that there were 3 different kinds of causality, requiring 3 different probability frameworks and the Bayesian framework as it existed circa beginning of the 21 century (Kolmogorov complexity and Solomonoff  Induction ) deals only with one kind of causality (the physics kind).
 
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*Who insisted that there was a Universal Morality and that past a certain smartness threshold all AGI's would automatically become friendly?  Who maintained that unfriendly AGI's cannot recursively self-improve and that the problem of recursive self-improvement is entirely equivalent to the problem of friendliness?
 
Answer:  It was Geddes.  Despite repeated ridicule by Wilson and Yudkowsky on the Sl4 list, it was Geddes that asserted these things.
 
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*Who mainted that general intelligence without sentience was impossible, and suggested a classification scheme for minds in general based on the degree of awareness present?  Who said that awareness of the  
Mind--------Reality relationship defined a transhuman?
 
Answer:  Geddes.  Just recently posted on the Extropy list.  
 
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Who first posted the beginnings of an outline for the "Periodic Table Of Cognition' and the beginnings of an 'ultimate metaphysics' in which something called *Mathematico-Cognition' (a hybrid of mathematics and cognition) was the identified as the ultimate noumenon of reality
 
Answer:  Geddes.  On the SL4 Wiki:
 
http://www.sl4.org/wiki/MarcGeddes/SentientCenteredTheoryOfMetaphysics
 
and
 
http://www.sl4.org/wiki/MarcGeddes/UniversalDataTypes

Also see Geddes's dated post in the 'Theory Of Evrything' archives:
 
http://www.mail-archive.com/everything-list@eskimo.com/msg07960.html
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


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