[extropy-chat] thought space map on cartoons

[Samantha Atkins]

On Feb 12, 2006, at 1:00 AM, Robert Bradbury wrote:

> I would have to go with (3) yes, no.  Not however from the freedom  
> of speech standpoint that most journalists and many westerners  
> might adopt.  Instead I would base the argument that if the Muslims  
> (and most Christians) continue to follow a set of beliefs involving  
> the predominant "life after death" concept then they will  
> ultimately end up dead.  Allowing a person to die when one has the  
> knowledge which might save them ( i.e. the knowledge available to  
> most people on this list) is presumably immoral and unethical.

How so.  I don't find it ethical to force the horse to drink the  
water once it has been made available.  It just annoys the horse and  
raises a LOT of issues.

> The moral/ethical (and extropic) arguments would dictate that  
> continuing to allow people to worship "false gods" when one knows  
> that better belief systems available is wrong.
>

Far as I know, they don't require my permission or allowing them to  
do so.  What exactly makes it my business to butt into their lives  
although I would consider it as egregious affront if they butted into  
mine?  Why is my appraisal of what is better more compelling (and  
morally must compel) than theirs?

> If people are fully informed and they choose to follow some set of  
> beliefs to their death that is fine -- so long as they allow others  
> to follow different sets of beliefs.

Exactly.  No talk of us being immoral if we don't interfere with  
their idiocy.

> If however people are not fully informed then it seems to be an  
> avoidance of ones moral/ethical duty to allow that situation to  
> continue.  Humor or irony is one form of expression which can be  
> used to point out inconsistent meme sets.
>

How exactly would you determine whether they are "fully informed" or  
not?  What if they do not wish to be fully informed?

All of that said I think we should publicly show contempt of many  
things that are claimed by and done in the name of religion.

- samantha