[extropy-chat] Whats Raels position on the first cell ? was

[Samantha Atkins]

BLECH!  This twaddle is real tiresome.



On Feb 13, 2006, at 8:32 PM, Mehran wrote:

> Brett,
>
> The full answer is of course in the book, but in short: there is no  
> first
> cell...
>
> Universe is infinite, it is infinite in time and it is infinite in  
> space,
> there is no beginning and there is no end,
> Universe always existed and will always exist and most interesting  
> of all
> and to answer your question more directly, life always existed in the
> universe as well...humans always existed in the universe as well,  
> we just
> progress scientifically then we go to other planets and create new  
> life
> forms and new civilizations like an intergalactic virus in the  
> universe, our
> creators were created the same way, all the way back to an infinity  
> in the
> past with no beginning ever...NASA has similar projects to go and  
> implant
> life on other planets and so there we go contributing our share in  
> the cycle
>
>
> I remember how I felt when I first read about this, so enjoy the  
> ride! ...
>
> there are more amazing details in the book, more extropic than  
> anything I
> know..
>
>
> LOVE
> Mehran
> www.rael.org
>
>
>
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> Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 18:25:39 +1100
> From: "Brett Paatsch" <bpaatsch at bigpond.net.au>
> Subject: [extropy-chat] Whats Raels position on the first cell ? was
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> Mehran wrote:
>
>> .. Your impatience suggests to
>> me that not only you need to read the whole book again slowly ,  
>> but you
>> need
>> to read the other 5 books by Rael as well ( all free downloads) to  
>> get
>> just
>> a first impression of what this is all about.  I have read  it  
>> more than
>> 10
>> times, thought about it and talked about it for 15 years and my
>> understanding of this incredible revelation is still expanding and  
>> I am
>> becoming ever more awestruck.  Nothing makes more sense...
>
> [snip]
>
>> There was an evolution in the emergence of life on the earth but the
>> evolution was in the minds of the Elohim's scientists as described  
>> in the
>> book. They first created simple unicellular organisms using genetic
>> engineering and then gradually created more complex animals and  
>> planst and
>> finally created the first human beings Adam and Eve in their own  
>> image as
>> described in the religious texts.  They created seven races on  
>> earth and
>> that is why this message is so consistent with the semi-mythical  
>> creation
>> stories in many cultures from far East, India, Africa, South  
>> Americans,
>> Eskimos and Native Americans all describing creator gods coming  
>> from sky
>> bringing guides (the Prophets) and wisdom.  These disparate  
>> cultures had
>> no
>> contact with each other yet they all describe similar creation  
>> events in
>> their past...
>
> As someone that's been studying a bit of biochem lately perhaps you  
> might
> be able to help me out with some insights from reading the books of
> Rael. .
>
> If the Elohim were alive, composed of RNA/DNA/proteins etc,
> from where did *they* originate ?
>
> You see as a poor Earth bound science student I'm particularly  
> interested
> in how the first cell that was to be the precursor to multicelled  
> organisms
> managed to form against a backdrop of what we earth scientists and
> science students consider to be the laws of thermodynamics.
>
> I'm not real happy with partial explanation that have been offered by
> folk like Paul Davies, I think, from memory, that argue that  
> gravity and
> information need to be taken into account in just the right way to
> counterbalance the laws of thermodynamics.
>
> It would be real neighbourly if you, on the basis of you reading of  
> Rael
> could clear up that little quandary about the origins of the first  
> cell up
> for
> me. That is the first cell including the universe in which the  
> Elohim live,
> so that if the Elohim are made of cells and are older than us, its  
> that
> cell I'm interested in.
>
>
> Brett Paatsch
>
>
>
>
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