[extropy-chat] Intelligent Design: I'm not dead yet

Mehran mehranraeli at comcast.net
Fri Jan 27 01:22:28 UTC 2006

Science is the designer in intelligent design.  It is scientists who design
and modify life forms... genetically modified organisms are just the first
step towards truly scientific and intelligently designed life forms.  Why
future transhumans are always depicted as attached to machines or hooked to
computers!?  We will be biologically enhanced.  The machine part is at best
just a transition stage.   The proponents of atheist intelligent design such
as Raelians promote science, progress and all biological engineerings of
life.  Singularity is coming fast and noone can stop it.  If we want to take
full advantage of it at a personal level, we just need to prepare ourselvs
mentally and ... culturally.  No need for me to type it all here since you
can download the book for free.

The true Intelligent Design book:  www.rael.org  



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Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 11:18:18 -0500
From: Robert Bradbury <robert.bradbury at gmail.com>
Subject: [extropy-chat] Intelligent Design: I'm not dead yet
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Slashdot is reporting [1] that the BBC is reporting [2] that more than 50%
of the people in Britian do not believe in evolution and more than 40%
support the teaching of creationism or intelligent design.  So this isn't a
problem for the United States only.

On top of that is this report [3] from Physorg that there are still people
out there who believe in intelligent design but they are laying low because
the time isn't right to push the ideas into forums that promote brain
washing people who have little experience in rational thought.

Mind you, I support the idea of "intelligent design" -- but it would be
*rational* intelligent design with testable hypotheses.  Of interest might
be [4] which documents the billions of adherents for various religions, many
of which have fundamental problems because they are built on foundations
which include arbitrary and/or irrational assumptions.  This isn't a small
problem and represents a fundamental problem for extropianism and
transhumanism in general.  It would be interesting to know what fraction of
"wars" that took place over the history of humanity were due to conflicts of
belief systems (i.e. faith based motivations) rather than conflicts of
resource availability (i.e. survival based motivations).  The crusades and
of course the various Israeli vs. Arab conflicts come to mind.  I ask this
because if even a small fraction of those "faith-based" thought machines
come to the conclusion that transhumanistic ideas (or even science in
general) represent a growing threat to their cherished belief systems then
you can kiss the singularity goodbye.


1. http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/01/26/1346255
2. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4648598.stm
3. http://www.physorg.com/news10145.html
4. http://www.adherents.com/adh_rb.html
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