[extropy-chat] Semantics + Re: Identity and becoming a Great Old One

[Bret Kulakovich]

Yes, there are a few flavors of Dualism, but they are all based on  
Plato, and distinct enough. I am more into being wrong than right,  
believe me - but the pattern view you are talking about is pretty  
much Neutral Monism. The threaded view is a type of dualism, and in  
some extreme examples arguably Parallelism or (egh) Phenominalism.

And the reason I bring this up, again, is while interacting with the  
rest of the world, wanting them to understand things like the  
Proactionary Principle and such, we need to reduce terms to basics  
and only claim what is our own as new. Coming to the table saying we  
espouse the "Threaded View" and the other party returning "You mean  
Cartesian Dualism?" would not strengthen our standing.


So hey- If  you get a chance, I am not asking to be catered to - it  
would help a great deal all involved if the distinctions between  
Threaded and Patterned, Dualism and Monism could be illustrated by  
examples that would not make them so.

At worst, you have a new Dualism an Monism here ; )


Bret K.


On Jan 26, 2006, at 8:36 PM, Russell Wallace wrote:

> On 1/27/06, Bret Kulakovich <bret at bonfireproductions.com> wrote:
> What is more important in this thread is the terminology being used
> to re-name classical philosophical definitions. I find this is a bit
> harrowing. It will be hard for others to take these postulates
> seriously when the rest of our species is using "monism" and
> "dualism" while we apply different terms. The geography of
> Transhumanism is on a landscape we must share with all - even if they
> died thousands of years ago.
>
> I'm all in favor of reusing existing terminology where possible,  
> but unfortunately "dualism" means at least two completely different  
> things, which makes it worse than useless for our purposes here.
>
> - Russell
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