[extropy-chat] Cryonics should be preserving life, not just identity.

Heartland velvethum at hotmail.com
Sun Jan 29 12:48:44 UTC 2006


> I would like my original brain to be fully restored and operational. This
>> would restore both life and the identity of the original. Subsequent mind
>> substrate changes would have to be performed by Moravec transfer.
>
>
> So  either of (a) an identical atom by atom brain disassembly followed by
> identical reassembly (with isotopic identity preserved if you so choose)
> [leaving aside the difficulties of actually doing so]; or (b) a 
> reactivation
> of the thread present at your time of "death" running on a non-biological 
> (
> e.g. uploaded) substrate would not be acceptable?
>
> If the answers are yes to either of these questions can you provide a
> rational explanation other than something along the lines of "this is what 
> I
> feel most comfortable with"?
>
> Thanks,
> Robert
>
> Ultimately, I would like to preserve the original subjective experience 
> which, objectively, is nothing more than a mind-producing activity of 
> matter in space and time. That matter and its activity carves out a 
> necessarily unique trajectory in space-time. To preserve subjective 
> experience, then, means to not destroy the original space-time trajectory 
> of mind-producing activity of matter while keepling it "mind-producing".
>
> I assume that scenario b) involved destructive uploading so it's 
> definitely unacceptable since it clearly destroys the original trajectory 
> while creating a duplicate thread/process along separate trajectory.
>
> Scenario a) is much more interesting but also more complicated. The 
> explanation of why the scenario should be acceptable probably involves 
> examining the actual function that space-time trajectory serves. I have a 
> pretty good idea how to explain this but I would have to think about it 
> some more. If you want, I could try to explain later.
>
> Slawomir

Well, I thought about it for a long time yesterday an my final conclusion is 
that scenario a) is unacceptable after all because the original trajectory 
gets destroyed during disassembly. It's the only logically consistent 
explanation.

Slawomir 



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