[extropy-chat] What Human Minds Will Eventually Do

Robert Bradbury robert.bradbury at gmail.com
Sun Jul 2 09:34:11 UTC 2006


On 7/2/06, BillK <pharos at gmail.com> wrote:
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>
> Remember that once we get our own gram of civilization each, our
> motivations and knowledge are likely to greatly change. I doubt that
> doing a Star Trek, conquer the universe will seem very attractive. If
> you want to 'chat' to the other one gram civilizations (AIs) then you
> certainly won't be dashing off at some fraction of light speed. The
> loss of the network may well be much more painful than gaining a new
> solar system to sit your gram in.


Finally, somebody understands why Matrioshka Brains don't tend to colonize!
The probability that any civilization that could colonize would reach this
conclusion would tend to argue against the sending of seeds or very very
small fractions of the MBrain to develop undeveloped solar systems.  MBrains
only replicate by fission as bacteria do where the complete set of resources
is relatively equally divided between the two offspring.  One can only do
this with the information capacity of an MBrain when a developed star system
comes into extremely close proximity to an undeveloped star system.  The
spread rate for advanced civilizations is not limited by some significant
fraction of the speed of light or the energy costs that interstellar
transport involves but the desire to avoid having to give up everything that
huge information storage capacity and simulation capacity make available to
them.  Indeed one could view the idea of sending a sub-copy to a virginal,
but unintelligent (empty) MBrain as being a form of cruel and unusal
punishment that an ATC would choose to prohibit.  As MBrain subsets (AIs,
uploads, whatever) are used to time sharing they have very long time
horizons and waiting a billion years until the ideal opportunity for
splitting  comes along isn't a big sacrifice.  One could imagine that those
strange entitites that want to engange in the development of a real
infoscape (rather than a virtual one) may simply be put into suspend mode
until the time comes along to drop off the Mayflower in a passing star
system deemed unsuitable for 'normal' system replication activities.

Robert


Robert
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