[extropy-chat] Meta Transhumanism and Axx Rxxx
hkhenson at rogers.com
Wed Mar 15 00:23:12 UTC 2006
At 09:58 PM 3/13/2006 -0800, you wrote:
>My offering, quick and dirty.
>Social creatures -- humans among them -- live in
>groups because of the survival benefit derived, and
>manifest strong instinctive loyalty-to-the-group
>behaviors. In humans this is tribalism, with tribal
>loyalty taking the form "My tribe right or wrong."
>Social groups -- herds, packs, tribes -- need identity
>markers for members. For humans, the memes of a
>belief system constitute one set of identity markers.
>Best, Jeff Davis
This is true, but you are still not down to the causal level. Humans got
to their present physical and psychological state as a species by evolution.
Can you restate this in such terms? (hint, inclusive fitness, evolutionary
>--- Keith Henson <hkhenson at rogers.com> wrote:
> > At 07:23 PM 2/18/2006 +1100, Marc Geddes wrote:
> > snip
> > >You know a person reading on the net or hanging out
> > >with high IQ folks can be inundated with bullshit
> > if
> > >one is not careful.
> > snip
> > Would you, would the list, be up to a Meta level
> > discussion of *why* the
> > evolved social primates known as humans believe
> > mutually incompatible
> > things? Why they believe anything at all? Why they
> > kill each other over
> > beliefs? Why people resist learning about these
> > subjects? (MetaMeta level!)
> > I *think* I know some of the reasons, but good
> > discussion (which is hard to
> > find) files the rough edges off the memes.
> > Keith Henson
> > PS. If you think that serious life extension will
> > *ever* happen, then
> > "we're only haggling over the price." :-)
> > (old joke)
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