[ExI] singularity summit on foxnews

Samantha Atkins sjatkins at mac.com
Thu Sep 13 06:15:19 UTC 2007


Calling those that point out the dangers of AGI "fear mongers" 
immediately denigrates their position.  That is not a reasonable 
beginning to eliciting thoughtful discussion.   Please start again with 
a less biased attitude.

- samantha

Brent Allsop wrote:
> Yes, Eliezer, congratulations.
> This is indeed exciting to see this kind of coverage.
> As a lessor issue, it is still of my opinion that you are making a big 
> mistake with what I believe to be mistaken and irrational fear mongering 
> about "unfriendly AI" that is hurting the Transhumanist, and the strong 
> AI movement.  Especially in popular media like this.  And apparently, 
> I'm not alone in my POV.  So far, 100% of the people that have weighed 
> in on this issue here at the Canonizer:
> http://karolisr.canonizer.com/topic.asp?topic_num=16
> also believe such fear mongering is not good, though for different reasons.
> We discussed this earlier on this list.  I seem to remember there were 
> several other points of view expressed than currently exists in the 
> Canonizer, but I can't remember what they were, or the reasons for such 
> beliefs?  Wouldn't et be great if we could get a comprehensive and 
> concise survey of just what everyone believes on this issue and why?
> Eliezer, I don't think I have ever seen a concise statement of why you 
> have such fears and make such a big deal about them.
> Could I be correct in arguing that you fear mongers are in the minority, 
> even amongst transhumanists, and others that believe there will soon be 
> very smart AI?  It would sure be nice to know, quantitatively, just how 
> much of a minority this was so we could also point out things like this 
> to Fox News when they start going on about things like a "nerdocalypse"?
> Brent Allsop
> spike wrote:
>> This will set the record to date for the most mainstream media coverage of
>> stuff that we have been discussing for years:
>> http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,296324,00.html
>> Congrats Eliezer.
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