[ExI] Slavery in the Future
sjatkins at mac.com
Sat Apr 19 07:38:05 UTC 2008
On Apr 17, 2008, at 8:33 AM, Lee Corbin wrote:
> The only important differences between my car and a
> slave is (a) the slave regrets its situation (b) the slave
> is conscious. If I create sub-programs that don't
> regret my control and who are conscious, then they're
> more like employees or collaborators. I will not call
> that slavery, unless you can persuade me that my car
> is properly speaking a slave.
The important difference is that your car is not an intelligent self
aware autonomous entity. If you create programs that are then you
have created entities that arguably have as much right to pursue
their own agenda as you do to pursue yours.
>> I am reasonably confident that outright slavery is not
>> a common thing among our highly-developed
>> galactic neighbors.
> Yes! For the simple reason that generating the regret
> and pining-away typical of slaves is not efficient.
So given the technology to sufficiently hack human minds back in the
age of slavery it would not be slavery to breed and use suitably
hacked humans? If that is part of your premise then it would be
perfectly fine if someone hacked you to have no resentment of having
your life devoted to their needs. Furthermore, given the technology,
it would be perfectly acceptable for you to hack as many humans as you
wish to work as non-regretting slaves on your projects.
>> On the other hand, other nastiness may be viable: Killing off most
>> people after a group develops human-equivalent AI. Developing
>> mind-control techniques to make willing slaves (see Vinge's "A
>> Deepness in the Sky", an excellent book). The eternal world-spanning
>> AI-assisted dictatorship.
> I agree, just that the "Focused" in VV's Deepness were an advance,
> but obviously hardly the pinnacle of advanced surveillance techniques
> or advanced AI.
> There is utterly no reason to worry about slavery in a high-tech
Seems to me your argument gives plenty of reason to worry whether you
stop calling it "slavery" or not.
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