[ExI] Cryonics a theory or belief?.

[John Grigg]

John K. Clark wrote:
Indeed you are not! Even on this list, with  members more enlightened than
99% of the general population, my view is still in the distinct minority.
I'm right nevertheless.
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John, your humility about your views is nearly overpowering!  ; )

you continued in a prior post:
I said it before I'll say it again, if you can't
overcome that superstition it will kill you dead dead dead.
The Singularity will simply not allow a conscious being with ideas
like that to survive...
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Ahhh, but memes/superstitions have a way of adapting to new situations...
And so I just might survive.

you continued:
However in one way it doesn't matter; even if you're right (you're not)
your meme about identity has no future. Right or wrong people and
machines with memes like mine will not be afraid of radical
upgrading and will hopelessly out-compete beings with memes like yours.
I'll probably get chopped up by the Singularity anyway just like most
people, but at least I have a chance, you have none.
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I'm not so sure people and machines with memes like yours will out-compete
beings with memes like me.  I do like the idea of
upgrading/copying/uploading myself, but I see the results as a "mind
child/brother" of mine and not truly *me.*  Keep in mind, I have the
urge/meme to "go forth and multiply (watch out!)" and so like many people in
the world it will be channeled into new paths with these incredible
Singularity technologies coming down the road.  It will be a matter of
semantics when the dust clears, so don't count me out just yet when it comes
to the Singularity chopping block.  A century from now I will say to you,
"this is my mind family, we are pleased to meet you," and you will reply
with, "I/we are here, greetings."

John Grigg wrote:
It's a high-tech alternative to the very old option of having a
child as one's personal immortality vehicle.
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you replied:
No, it's the same idea that your identity remains intact even after you went
to the dentist and had anesthesia to extract a tooth.
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NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! LOL  The self-circuit has not been permanently broken
when you go under anesthetic and then regain consciousness.


John Grigg  : )
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