[ExI] Sorry..flds raid, was general repudiation...

Anna Taylor femmechakra at yahoo.ca
Mon May 5 19:13:02 UTC 2008


Sorry about the post.  I'm not sure why yahoo does that.  It never used to come out in that format.

Anyway, again my apology, i'll fix it before posting again.

--- On Mon, 5/5/08, Anna Taylor <femmechakra at yahoo.ca> wrote:

> From: Anna Taylor <femmechakra at yahoo.ca>
> Subject: Re: [ExI] flds raid, was general repudiation...
> To: "ExI chat list" <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>
> Received: Monday, May 5, 2008, 2:40 PM
> --- On Mon, 5/5/08, spike <spike66 at att.net> wrote:
> 
> Having one's children taken is the worst
> possible thing I can imagine, losing contact with
> one's own mother is abominable, and yet nearly all
> of the victims here DID NO CRIMES!  We can justify
> rounding up the perps who actually impregnated
> underage girls, fine, do that full stop.  But how
> in the hell can we justify punishing the victims by taking
> their children? 
  
> Good point Spike. I hadn't thought of that when I
> posted. I thought about >how unfair it is that these
> teen mothers will never understand what real love is
> about (as there husbands are old and chosen for them) or
> that they will never have there own choices. It makes
> me sad.  What if one of these girls could have been a
> doctor, a scientist or an artist?  Their lives are
> pre-ordained by elders that have alternative motives, how
> can this be good for women?  I thought the idea was to
> progress, how can we progress when we still will not
> acknowledge that certain mentalities are not worth
> keeping? What if nobody had taken action to stop slavery?
> The mentality had to have affected enough people to
> warrant change.  
> 
> As for taking the children away from the mother, I get
> your point.  So what is the alternative?  Let the
> children stay in the same circumstances and create a
> whole new generation of such manipulation?  I can only
> think that maybe taking the mother and child away from
> the environment may be a better idea.  I wonder if a
> year or two away from the manipulation if the mentality
> would change?   
> 
> I will not say that going in with guns a blaze and
> snatching the children away was the best solution but I
> do not understand how some do not see the injustice
> being done to these girls.  (As for the old manipulating
> geezers, I hope there peckers fall off:) Sex with
> minors is an offence in the United States, that alone
> should warrant that these men be convicted. 
> 
> Enough from me on the subject and thanks to whoever
> brought the subject up, it has given me much to think
> and write about.  
> Thank you Amara for the links.
> 
> Anna
> 
> 
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