[ExI] flds raid, was general repudiation...

John Grigg possiblepaths2050 at gmail.com
Sun May 25 18:19:48 UTC 2008

Lee Corbin wrote:
It's a question of sympathies, not logic, and certainly not due
process. It's okay to hate the FLDS. None of this would be
tolerated for a minute if it were any kind of group that had
an iota of popularity among the American citizens, or even
an iota of popularity with the all-important foreigners.

I think that that explains it all.

I personally think it is a matter of logic, due to what was going on
in their socially isolated community.  And this is why the public
dislikes them so much.

First of all, I totally agree that the FLDS mothers should never have
been separated from their children.  And they should be reunited
immediately.  But the men who fathered children with women under the
age of 18 (especially in cases when the girls were only 13, 14, 15)
should face serious prison time.  And often these men were thirty or
forty years older than their child brides and they had consolidated
them into the modern-day equivalent of harems!  They would use their
high status in the patriarchy to drive off young male rivals.

And even a married man who tried to stand up to the corrupt
patriarchal system, would end up with the Church elders confiscating
his home, firing him from his job, and quite possibly taking away his

I don't like hearing the term "parents" in reference to the FLDS due
to the criminality and institutional abuse built into it (I see it as
mom/possible child bride- good, dad- *some of them at least* criminal
and manipulative bastard who beds underage women and exploits
them/should go to prison).  I realize some of the men/husbands/fathers
are not abusive manipulators, but instead very decent and loving human
beings, but this must be sorted out.  The guilty men must be punished
and the young women of the community well protected from sexual

We must not let the old ways of doing things continue in the FLDS
community.  The state must make sure underage girls are not preyed
upon by older men.  And those men who do break the laws of the United
States (where they happen to live..., lol) by sexually exploiting
these young girls must face the harsh consequences.  And so the FLDS
community will have to be closely monitored from now on (for many
years to come) to make certain they comply with the laws of the land.

Am I wrong?

John Grigg

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