[ExI] extropy-chat Digest, Vol 64, Issue 2

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Sat Jan 3 22:29:32 UTC 2009


Amara has a baby!Maybe  it's possible call him Silvio...greetings  
from  Italy...gv ;)



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>   1. Re: Happy New Year! (Emlyn)
>   2. Amara is giving birth! (samantha)
>   3. Re: Amara is giving birth! (Gina Miller)
>   4. Re: Amara is giving birth! (MB)
>   5. Re: Amara is giving birth! (Eschatoon Magic)
>   6. Re: broadband in Oz (Stathis Papaioannou)
>   7. Re: recent Doctor Who (Tom Nowell)
>   8. Re: Amara is giving birth! (John Grigg)
>   9. Re: Amara is giving birth! (giovanni santost)
>  10. Re: Amara is giving birth! (samantha)
>  11. Re: battery breakthru (Jeff Davis)
>  12. Re: Amara is giving birth! (samantha)
>  13. Re: Amara is giving birth! (Jeff Davis)
>  14. Re: Amara is giving birth! (Emlyn)
>  15.  I don't understand students: help ! (Anna Taylor)
>  16. Soon Nano will be the way out of the coming Depression
>      (Frank McElligott)
>  17. The new Doctor (Jeremy Webb )
>  18. Re: Soon Nano will be the way out of the coming Depression
>      (Bryan Bishop)
>  19. Re: I don't understand students: help ! (Kevin H)
>  20. Re: I don't understand students: help ! (Damien Broderick)
>  21. Folding at Home (Stefano Vaj)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 17:02:33 +1030
> From: Emlyn <emlynoregan at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [ExI] Happy New Year!
> To: "ExI chat list" <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>
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> 2009/1/2 BillK <pharos at gmail.com>:
>> On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 12:43 AM, Emlyn wrote:
>>>> On the BBC2 TV New year musical entertainment programme 'Jules
>>>> Hootenanny', after her performance the singer Annie Lennox had a  
>>>> brief
>>>> chat with the host.
>>>> Jules said 'And what is your recommendation for 2009?'
>>>> After a brief pause, Annie said, 'Well, 2009 is going to be a
>>>> catastrophic year. I recommend staying in bed'. Unsettled, trying  
>>>> to
>>>> make a joke of it, Jules said, 'So your recommendation for 2009  
>>>> is to
>>>> stay in bed!', then laughed and swiftly moved on to another guest.
>>>>
>>>> Unexpected serious comment on a light entertainment show.
>>>
>>> I like Annie Lennox, but that's super lame. I stand by my previous  
>>> exhortation.
>>>
>>
>>
>> <Grin> Well, of course Annie Lennox is not a noted financial analyst.
>>
>> I understood her to be saying that you might as well go to sleep and
>> wake up in 2010, missing all the bad stuff in 2009. What I thought
>> remarkable was that the realization of just how bad 2009 is going to
>> be is spreading through the general public, in spite of all the
>> government attempts to soothe their fears.
>>
>> Some analysts do agree with her opinion.
>> See:
>> <http://www.minyanville.com/articles/WMT-TGT-GE-C-djia-gm/index/a/20445 
>> >
>> Five Themes You Need to Know for 2009
>> Kevin Depew   Dec 31, 2008
>>
>> Final paragraph:
>> So there you have it. Only 366 days until 2010. That's the good news.
>> When all is said and done, perhaps the best thing that will be said  
>> of
>> 2009 is that it only lasted a year.
>> ------------
>>
>> BillK
>
> Perhaps I should have been more cautious in my phrasing. Try this:
>
> ---
> Please accept with no obligation, implied or implicit my best wishes
> for an environmentally conscious, socially responsible , low stress,
> non-addictive, gender neutral, celebration of the summer solstice
> holiday, practised within the most enjoyable traditions of the
> religious persuasion of your choice, or secular practices of your
> choice , with respect for the religious/secular persuasions and /or
> traditions of others, or their choice not to practice religious or
> secular traditions at all....................
>
> And a fiscally successful, personally fulfilling,and medically
> uncomplicated recognition of the onset of the generally accepted
> calendar year 2009, but not without due respect for the calendars of
> choice of other cultures whose contributions to society have helped
> make our Nation great, (not to imply that our Nation is necessarily
> greater than any other country), and without regard to the race,
> creed, colour, age, physical ability, religious faith, choice of
> computer platform, tool brand, automobile brand, favoured type of
> fermented alcohol-enhanced beverage or sexual preference of the
> wishee.
>
> (EULA: By accepting this greeting, you are accepting these terms. This
> greeting is subject to clarification or withdrawal, it is freely
> transferable with no alteration to the original greeting. It implies
> no promise by the wisher to actually implement any of the wishes for
> herself / himself or others, and is void where prohibited by law, and
> is revocable at the sole discretion of the wisher. Where required by
> law, this wish is warranted to perform as expected within the usual
> application of good tidings for a period of one year, or until the
> issuance of a subsequent holiday greeting, whichever comes first, and
> warranty is limited to replacement of these wishes or issuance of a
> new wish at the sole discretion of the wisher.)
> ---
>
> (not mine I'm afraid)
>
> -- 
> Emlyn
>
> http://emlynoregan.com - my home
> http://emlyntech.wordpress.com - coding related
> http://point7.wordpress.com - downshifting and ranting
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2009 01:01:24 -0800
> From: samantha <sjatkins at mac.com>
> Subject: [ExI] Amara is giving birth!
> To: ExI chat list <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>
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> Some of you may have seen this already but I just saw a status update
> from her on Facebook.  WOW!!!!  <bouncing off the walls>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 01:39:23 -0800
> From: "Gina Miller" <nanogirl at halcyon.com>
> Subject: Re: [ExI] Amara is giving birth!
> To: "ExI chat list" <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>
> Message-ID: <8B23298D396E4D869891E89D6AA1108D at GinaSony>
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> We are all thinking of you Amara. Congratulations! Yours,
>
>
> Gina "Nanogirl" Miller
> Nanotechnology Industries
> http://www.nanoindustries.com
> Personal: http://www.nanogirl.com
> Animation Blog: http://maxanimation.blogspot.com/
> Craft blog: http://nanogirlblog.blogspot.com/
> Foresight Senior Associate http://www.foresight.org
> Nanotechnology Advisor Extropy Institute  http://www.extropy.org
> Email: nanogirl at halcyon.com
> "Nanotechnology: Solutions for the future."
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: samantha
>  To: ExI chat list
>  Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 1:01 AM
>  Subject: [ExI] Amara is giving birth!
>
>
>  Some of you may have seen this already but I just saw a status update
>  from her on Facebook.  WOW!!!!  <bouncing off the walls>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 06:32:54 -0500 (EST)
> From: "MB" <mbb386 at main.nc.us>
> Subject: Re: [ExI] Amara is giving birth!
> To: "ExI chat list" <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>
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> Go Amara! Go Myrtle!  :)
>
> Happy New Year!
>
> MB
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 12:45:56 +0100
> From: "Eschatoon Magic" <eschatoon at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [ExI] Amara is giving birth!
> To: "ExI chat list" <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>
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> Go Amara! According to recent intelligence our new friend will not be
> called Myrtle -- Amara has chosen a name and will announce it at due
> time.
>
> On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 12:32 PM, MB <mbb386 at main.nc.us> wrote:
>> Go Amara! Go Myrtle!  :)
>>
>> Happy New Year!
>>
>> MB
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>
>
>
> -- 
> Eschatoon Magic
> http://cosmeng.org/index.php/Eschatoon
> aka Giulio Prisco
> http://cosmeng.org/index.php/Giulio_Prisco
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 00:10:26 +1100
> From: "Stathis Papaioannou" <stathisp at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [ExI] broadband in Oz
> To: "ExI chat list" <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>
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> 2009/1/2 Damien Broderick <thespike at satx.rr.com>:
>> fwiw:
>>
>> <http://www.marketresearch.com/product/print/default.asp?g=1&productid=1539701 
>> >
>>
>> ...broadband penetration is proceeding at high speed in Australia. By
>> mid-2007 there were close to 4.5 million subscribers [pop. circa 20
>> million]. In the residential market this means a broadband  
>> penetration of
>> close to 64% in Internet households (46% of total households). In the
>> business market, this figure is over 80%.
>>
>> While the penetration of broadband in Australia is catching up with  
>> its
>> trading partners it is still lagging behind in the quality of  
>> broadband
>> provided by the operators, and in the price customers have to pay.  
>> The
>> majority of customers are still on services that provide only 256Kb/ 
>> s or
>> 512Kb/s. Telstra, however, does make an 8Mb/s available, but this  
>> is not a
>> guaranteed speed, only a best-effort service.
>
> Even worse than the slow and expensive and the almost-bungled new
> broadband network government initiative is the proposal for mandatory
> censorship of the Internet, as in China:
>
> http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/communications/soa/ISPs-Govt-porn-filters-could-cripple-internet-/0,130061791,339289857,00.htm
>
>
> -- 
> Stathis Papaioannou
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 18:28:15 +0000 (GMT)
> From: Tom Nowell <nebathenemi at yahoo.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: [ExI] recent Doctor Who
> To: extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org
> Message-ID: <317272.38659.qm at web27002.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
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>
> Max wrote: "The Firefly series and the Serenity movie are the  
> creation of the
> marvelous Joss Whedon. Since he hasn't been mentioned in the thread,
> I'm assuming you don't know. He created Buffy: The Vampire Slayer --
> one of the most consistently entertaining and well written TV shows
> ever, and has recently been writing comics, including the excellent
> Astonishing X-Men, a Buffy Season 8 comic, Fray, and Runaways.
>
> If there were to a be a genuinely transhumanist TV series, Whedon is
> the fellow I'd like to write it."
>
> Well, Dollhouse (Joss Whedon's new show, due to air in the US soon)  
> has some transhumanist themes - the show's plot is built around  
> people (or "dolls") who work for an agency that changes their  
> personalities and memories. Each episode, agents go undercover  
> totally believing in the cover identity that's been put into them.  
> Seeing as characters in Buffy and Angel regularly philosophised  
> about the work they do, and Firefly had frequent discussions about  
> how they got paid and with Shepherd Book about their work, I imagine  
> there will be discussions about the implications of the  
> neurotechnologies used on them.
>
> I reckon when some future neurotechnology starts serisouly touching  
> on questions of memory and personality, lazy journalists will pepper  
> their articles with quotes from Dollhouse, seeing as every newspaper  
> column I read these days seems to have at least two mass media  
> references per article.
>
> Now, if only we can get him to do a show with nano- and info-  
> technology in overdrive, we might get a quote for every area of  
> transhumanism....
>
> Tom
>
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 12:47:49 -0700
> From: "John Grigg" <possiblepaths2050 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [ExI] Amara is giving birth!
> To: "ExI chat list" <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>
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> Great news!!  Greetings to the brand new little human being!!  You  
> will
> witness such wonders during your hopefully very very long lifetime.
>
> John Grigg : )
>
> On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 4:45 AM, Eschatoon Magic  
> <eschatoon at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Go Amara! According to recent intelligence our new friend will not be
>> called Myrtle -- Amara has chosen a name and will announce it at due
>> time.
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 12:32 PM, MB <mbb386 at main.nc.us> wrote:
>>> Go Amara! Go Myrtle!  :)
>>>
>>> Happy New Year!
>>>
>>> MB
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Eschatoon Magic
>> http://cosmeng.org/index.php/Eschatoon
>> aka Giulio Prisco
>> http://cosmeng.org/index.php/Giulio_Prisco
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> Message: 9
> Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 12:23:14 -0800 (PST)
> From: giovanni santost <santostasigio at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [ExI] Amara is giving birth!
> To: ExI chat list <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>
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> Best wishes to Amara and her little daughter.
> Giovanni
>
> --- On Fri, 1/2/09, John Grigg <possiblepaths2050 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: John Grigg <possiblepaths2050 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [ExI] Amara is giving birth!
> To: "ExI chat list" <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>
> Date: Friday, January 2, 2009, 1:47 PM
>
>
> Great news!!? Greetings to the brand new little human being!!? You  
> will witness such wonders during your hopefully very very long  
> lifetime.
>
> John Grigg : )
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 4:45 AM, Eschatoon Magic  
> <eschatoon at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Go Amara! According to recent intelligence our new friend will not be
> called Myrtle -- Amara has chosen a name and will announce it at due
> time.
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 12:32 PM, MB <mbb386 at main.nc.us> wrote:
>> Go Amara! Go Myrtle! ?:)
>>
>> Happy New Year!
>>
>> MB
>>
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>
>
> --
> Eschatoon Magic
> http://cosmeng.org/index.php/Eschatoon
> aka Giulio Prisco
> http://cosmeng.org/index.php/Giulio_Prisco
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> Message: 10
> Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2009 15:40:25 -0800
> From: samantha <sjatkins at mac.com>
> Subject: Re: [ExI] Amara is giving birth!
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