[ExI] FW: how the hell did this happen?

Stathis Papaioannou stathisp at gmail.com
Sat Jan 17 08:56:27 UTC 2009

2009/1/17 spike <spike66 at att.net>:

> So now the family services people have somehow been granted power that
> exceeds the local police, so that they can take children from their families
> without having to explain why?  To anyone?  Even the police?  If the family
> shot the DYFS people dead in their tracks while in the home, would it not be
> perfectly justifiable homicide?  If the DYFS people were there apparently
> without a warrant (and if a warrant, based on what authority?) with the
> intention of taking the children, would they not be kidnappers, and richly
> deserve to find themselves on the receiving end of deadly force?  Where did
> this authority come from?  Is there some mysterious crypto-constitution
> granting these powers?   What is the role of the police in this case?

Presumably the DYFS would have left and come back with police backup
if there had been any resistance, since without the power to do this
they would be completely ineffectual. But the real question is, who is
best placed to decide if there is sufficient evidence of child abuse
to warrant removal of the child from the family?

Stathis Papaioannou

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