[ExI] [mta] Are we actors in transcendent films?

[Giulio Prisco]

What I see, is destructive capacity advancing much faster than
defensive capacity, at both technological and societal levels. I don't
like that, but it is what I see. And I agree that our continued
survival will require balancing the development rates of destructive
and defensive capacities.

But I don't see why this must require increased benevolence.

I certainly _hope_ that future advanced civilizations will be more
benevolent than ours, but I don't think we can prove it.

On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Lincoln Cannon <lincoln at metacannon.net> wrote:
> Giulio, I'd like to explore this further with you. Do you believe our
> civilization will continue to advance faster in destructive than defensive
> capacity? If so, to what would you attribute our continued survival
> (assuming we survive the increasing disparity)?
>
> On Apr 4, 2010, at 10:44 AM, Giulio Prisco <giulio at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Right, plus many other motivations that we would not be able to
>> understand.
>>
>> One point where I don't completely agree is "the creators are more
>> benevolent than us". Sounds kind of reasonable... but not necessary.
>> And from our daily experience we know that intelligence does not
>> necessarily correlates with benevolence.
>>
>> G.
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 5:22 PM, Lincoln Cannon <lincoln at metacannon.net>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Similarly, we can extrapolate from other creative acts in which we now
>>> engage. For example, perhaps we are a research project, one among many
>>> worlds in aggregation to assist with predicting the future of our
>>> creators'
>>> world. Perhaps our world is analogous to a child-rearing project, engaged
>>> in
>>> for reasons like those for which we engage in raising children ourselves.
>>> One thing that is highly probable, no matter the motivation, is that the
>>> creators (if they exist) are more benevolent than us; otherwise, the
>>> probably would not have survived the acquisition of powers that would
>>> accompany the ability to create a world like ours.
>>>
>>> On Apr 4, 2010, at 4:20 AM, Giulio Prisco <giulio at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Some fun thoughts FYC:
>>>>
>>>> Are we actors in transcendent films?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://giulioprisco.blogspot.com/2010/04/are-we-actors-in-transcendent-films.html
>>>>
>>>> Yesterday I was watching a good historic film, and I thought that
>>>> perhaps this is the reason why transcendent post-humans may bother to
>>>> simulate us (see the previous post): for the same reason why we enjoy
>>>> historic novels and films.
>>>>
>>>> Films now permit only passive watching from an external point of view,
>>>> and offer only very limited clues on the thoughts and mental states of
>>>> the characters (books are much better in this respect). But
>>>> films-as-we-know-them will probably be replaced by full sensory and
>>>> mental experiences indistinguishable from reality. For example:
>>>>
>>>> First, films will use full 3D virtual reality technology to permit
>>>> viewers moving in the scene (like live plays where the public can walk
>>>> in the scene).
>>>>
>>>> Second, once VR technology becomes fully immersive with full sensory
>>>> stimulation, films may become indistinguishable from reality, but
>>>> viewers will still know that they are watching a movie.
>>>>
>>>> Then, viewers may have the option to "become" the characters,
>>>> forgetting their primary lives and adopting the points of view of the
>>>> characters, with their own scripted thoughts, memories and emotions.
>>>>
>>>> And ultimately, the characters themselves may become fully autonomous
>>>> and conscious entities, able to provide endless hours of entertainment
>>>> to viewers by becoming different versions of themselves in different
>>>> versions of the film's simulated reality. Are quantum many-worlds
>>>> special effects?
>>>>
>>>> So if you wanted to be a Hollywood star... perhaps you are one, acting
>>>> within an entertainment simulation run by a Transcendent Mind. Perhaps
>>>> if you do it well the Mind will copy you to other films.
>>>>
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