[ExI] Mining the Sky SL Talk I gave today

samantha sjatkins at mac.com
Mon Apr 26 04:51:41 UTC 2010


BTW, this talk was done for a group called The Fulfillment that I 
started a while back in Second Life.  It is focused on what can be done 
in the near term to actualize a highly positive future taking humanity 
up to and through the technological singularity.  We meet in SL at 1100 
SLT (Pacific Time) every Saturday at 
http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Transvision%20Nexus/40/86/41. 
Please drop by if you are in world.

Now that I have a bit more time, I am building a RW presence for the 
group.  We have a fairly new group page on Facebook, ning presence (not 
very fond of them so not much maintained) and I am working on a website. 
   It is likely that a meetup group (Bay Area) will follow soon.

- samantha


Adrian Tymes wrote:
> Mind if I forward this chat log + presentation to some friends?
> You touched on a lot of the points I've been touching on when
> I propose this idea.
> 
> One thing to consider: harvesting on-site is more efficient from
> a mass budget point of view, but might not be more efficient
> from an operational point of view.  Building and launching
> refining equipment before you've confirmed that you have an
> asteroid with good materials, and that you can safely return
> the material to Earth (orbit or ground), might be more difficult
> to finance than returning an asteroid to Earth orbit *and then*
> taking care of getting equipment to process it.  (Also, if you're
> eventually going to use most of the asteroid - say, a M-type
> where the bulk of the iron is intended for eventual use as a
> space habitat's shell - then you might as well capture it all in
> the first place.)  Also, refining equipment in orbit can be
> teleoperated from the ground more efficiently than the same
> equipment a few light minutes away.
> 
> Also, you'll need a way to confirm the mineral content of an
> asteroid you intend to mine, before you can drum up much
> financing for an operation to mine it.  Identifying a M-type is
> step one, but you'll need more precise data than that.
> 
> Are you planning to give this talk elsewhere?
> 
> --- On *Sat, 4/24/10, Samantha Atkins /<sjatkins at mac.com>/* wrote:
> 
> 
>     From: Samantha Atkins <sjatkins at mac.com>
>     Subject: [ExI] Mining the Sky SL Talk I gave today
>     To: "ExI chat list" <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>
>     Date: Saturday, April 24, 2010, 6:29 PM
> 
>     *Acknowledgments*
>      
>     I ended up only having a day to prepare this talk.  So of necessity
>     I flipped between many sources on and offline to get information to
>     compile.  I cribbed mercilessly.  I would like to flesh this
>     information out so any help from those of you more knowledgeable,
>     especially you real rocket scientists and astrophysicists, would be
>     much appreciated.   :)
>      
>     Some sources I used:
>      
>     Entering Space
>     <http://www.amazon.com/Entering-Space-Creating-Spacefaring-Civilization/dp/1585420360/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1272155991&sr=8-1> -
>     Robert Zubrin
>      
>     Mining the Sky
>     <http://www.amazon.com/Mining-Sky-Untold-Asteroids-Planets/dp/0201328194/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1272156440&sr=8-1> -
>     John S. Lewis
>      
>     Wikipedia
>      
>     NEAR-EARTH ASTEROID TRACKING    <http://neat.jpl.nasa.gov/>
> 
>     Near Earth Objects <http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/neo/>
> 
>     Near Earth Objects Map
>     <http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=5&ved=0CBsQFjAE&url=http://szyzyg.arm.ac.uk/%7Espm/neo_map.html&ei=yn_TS6WKEoeiswOTxLyNCg&usg=AFQjCNEnKvIkUtfZObEcSwnpXYb9-rdArQ&sig2=yCjmdBIY4a7uJJ8EkwK35g>
> 
>     Internet Encyclopedia of Science <http://daviddarling.info/>
> 
>     and especially the wonderful site:
> 
>     Permanent: Asteroid mining, space colonies, commercialization
>     <http://www.permanent.com/>
> 
> 
>     - samantha (aka Serendipity)
> 
>     <http://www.permanent.com/>
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