[ExI] Religions and violence

[Mirco Romanato]

Il 13/08/2010 19.13, Sen Yamamoto ha scritto:
> But my point is, people go to war for reasons other than religion.

Often.

> Why can't these people want to attack and THEN justify it through
> their religion?

Surely. But the justification is real or invented?

> I think that this happens a lot.

Usually justifications can be invented.
Even with a "Just war" theory, I can claim the there is a "Clear and
present danger" of this or that.
Intelligent people usually look at the justifications and make their
mind if they are believable or not, founded on facts or not.
Strangely, even here, where intelligent people abound, some react with a
knee-jerk reflex and not with reason and facts.

If a woman fire to and kill a man and claim self-defense, because he was
trying to rape her, one could look at the facts at hand to decide if
believe her or not:
1) the man was shot 20 m away, in the back, he was full dressed and the
women is without a mark or an hair out of order
2) the man was shot in front, point blank, was naked and the woman is
wounded and bleeding

Both could have invented the rape to justify the killing.
But what is more coherent with the facts at hand?
The first scenario or the second?
Or it don't matter, as women kill men for reasons other than self defense?


Islam (or Islamic Law - they are one and the same) is full of
justification to kill, make war, enslave, rob, torture and so on against
 not Muslims.

It is not difficult to find a justification.

For example, Islamic Law call for sparing the life of the conquered
people, apart for a few exception. Then, if you look at the exceptions,
there are so many and so large, that the Muslims could kill anyone in
the conquered land with an excuse or another. And, even some Muslim
killed a Kuffar without an excuse, they are barren from punishing him
for this.

Do you ever tried to talk with some Muslim is a forum about these
topics? Every time you will try to nail them to obtain a clear answer,
they avoid to reply, change topics or ask for time to ask some "expert".

Try to go to a forum for Muslism, where they talk between them in
English, and read what they say to each other. It is enlightening.

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