[ExI] transhumanism as a philosophy

Giulio Prisco giulio at gmail.com
Tue Jun 22 17:01:02 UTC 2010


Believe me Natasha, I perfectly understand your reaction. But Damien's
"accusation" is not an accusation, but a statement of fact.

It is a fact that Max has not been as publicly and visibly active as
he used to be. It is a fact that the Extropy Institute has been closed
down for a long time now. It is a fact that the old issues of
"Extropy: A Journal of Transhumanist Thought" cannot be found online.
BTW I am sure you have seen RU Sirius' "Mondo 2000 History Project",
perhaps we should do something similar for Extropy.

It is a fact that others have taken advantage of the perceived absence
of Max and the Extropy Institute, and promoted their favorite
interpretation of transhumanism as _the_ interpretation of
transhumanism. I and many others are not satisfied with this. There
are certainly many exciting transhumanist projects around, but without
the central hub that the Extropy Institute represented.

The question is, how to recover the spirit and practical organization
of a few years ago.

G.

On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 6:29 PM, Natasha Vita-More <natasha at natasha.cc> wrote:
> Oh for goodness sakes Damien.  I will wait for an apology for such a
> unnecessary accusation.
>
>
>
> Natasha
> Natasha Vita-More
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org
> [mailto:extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org] On Behalf Of Damien
> Broderick
> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 11:21 AM
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> Cc: RussellBlackford
> Subject: Re: [ExI] transhumanism as a philosophy
>
> On 6/22/2010 8:11 AM, Natasha Vita-More wrote:
>
>> "The big special issues of JET that we published a year or two back
>> are arguably the best intellectual resource that exists, and they
>> should be referred to, but I don't see any common philosophical system
> there."
>>
>> There is some truth to this, but it does not out-think "Extropy: A
>> Journal of Transhumanist Thought". It is simply more academic in scope.
>
> JET is available to everyone in an instant at http://jetpress.org/ .
> Despite my long interest and involvement in the topic, I have never seen a
> copy, real or virtual, of "Extropy: A Journal of Transhumanist Thought," and
> as I pointed out recently it doesn't appear to be accessible online. Bryan
> urled to the Wayback Machine, but it isn't there either, it seems. The
> Extropy Institute has been closed down for a long time now. Bostrom and
> Hughes and Sandberg and Blackford are everywhere, in person and in print,
> while Max is... less so (except, perhaps tangentially, in the business
> community). Hence, it hardly seems necessary to invoke a conspiracy to
> explain why the active and visible representatives of transhumanism get more
> attention--and have more sway, assuming they do.
>
> The >H READER might change this, when and if it appears.
>
> Damien Broderick
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