[ExI] Phil Jones acknowledging that climate science isn'tsettled

Christopher Luebcke cluebcke at yahoo.com
Tue Mar 2 19:23:58 UTC 2010


It's extraordinary to me that scientific research that provides support for AGW theory gets so much critical attention, yet accusations of fraud are accepted on this list without comment. 

I find that very disappointing, but clearly I'm in the minority. One suspects that if Gordon made the same accusation about some aspect of AGI research it wouldn't be accepted quite so uncritically.



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From: Stefano Vaj <stefano.vaj at gmail.com>
To: rafal at smigrodzki.org; ExI chat list <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>
Sent: Tue, March 2, 2010 9:30:47 AM
Subject: Re: [ExI] Phil Jones acknowledging that climate science isn'tsettled

On 1 March 2010 19:49, Rafal Smigrodzki <rafal.smigrodzki at gmail.com> wrote:
> ### I have reassured myself by extensive reading that deliberate
> forgery of climate data is well supported through analysis of the
> papers, as well as perusal of additional documents produced by FOIA
> requests.

This, OTOH, does not tell us anything about the factual existence of
global warming (data may be forged to support a perfectly true
hypothesis...).

In turn, however, this does not tell us anything on whether it is
anthropic, but above all what kind of difference the envisaged
reductions in carbon emissions would actually make (let us say, for
instance, that a runaway process is already in place...), let alone
how the related costs would compare with the costs of the warming
avoided, and/or with the costs of possible alternative measures of
geo-engineering (or adaptative bio-engineering!). And I see very
little discussion of those points.

All in all, this makes me inclined to think that climatology,
especially in the vulgarisations where somebody regularly suggests
that we are facing a likely extinction risk, is basically becoming a
religious discourse.

--
Stefano Vaj
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