[ExI] The "real" world

[Natasha Vita-More]

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[mailto:extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org] On Behalf Of Mike Dougherty
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 6:12 PM
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Subject: Re: [ExI] The "real" world

On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Lee Corbin <lcorbin at rawbw.com> wrote:
> Mike writes
>
>> I think uploading is not the only option.
>
> Hell, it's not *even* an option, now!
>
>> Oh, by "leave these things behind" you meant the design flaw of 
>> non-renewal due to age, right?  :)
>
> We've described over and over the advantages of running on distributed 
> hardware
>
>    safety
>    reduced need for backups
>    simple incremental hardware upgrades
>
> So, no, I think that what was meant was literally "leave behind". You 
> have a problem with that?  :-)
>
> Why anything else? What other option compares at all to it?

Compared to cloud computing the LeeCorbin runtimes?  Nothing.

...though, as you say above - uploading isn't even an option, now.
Taking better care of the hardware hosting your.. identity (however it may
be defined) is probably a good compromise between self-destruction by
debauchery and a cryotank wait for upload.

I meant only to express that there may exist alternatives to uploading for
the indefinite lifespan goal.  The technology that lets us disassemble and
model subneuronal processes will probably make it possible to create
artificial systems before the uploading process is considered safe enough
for production use.  Artificial systems that enhance or support existing
structures are probably more readily accepted than outright replacements.  I
would have never expected people to pay large amounts of money to have
botulism toxin injected into their face, but Botox is doing well in the
cosmetic 'enhancement'
business.  I was thinking also of the technology to, for example, restart
cellular rejuvenation after age has slowed it to ineffectual levels. (or
whatever causes the phenomenon known as "age")

Suppose that a special diet would halt the process of aging and allow those
who practice this restricted diet to literally live forever (barring
physical injuries that induce a state of death) - what percentage of the
world's population either could afford it or have the discipline to practice
it unerringly?

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