[ExI] Age of Gliese 581 was Re: Retired military officers come forward about UFO visitations

[Jeff Davis]

All this talk of aliens got me thinking, and so a question popped into
my head: "How old," I wondered, "is Gliese 581?"

Googled it.  Wikipediaed it.  Bingo!

Citations 5 and 7 as follows:

5.  # ^ a b "Star: Gl 581". Extrasolar Planets Encyclopaedia.
http://exoplanet.eu/star.php?st=Gl+581. Retrieved 2009-04-27. "Mass
0.31 Msun, Age 8+3-1 Gyr"

7. # ^ Selsis 3.4 page 1382 "lower limit of the age that, considering
the associated uncertainties, could be around 7 Gyr", "preliminary
estimate", "should not be above 10-11 Gyr"

ANSWER: 7-11 billion years.

Whereas our little neighborhood is a mere 4 billion years old.

And of course, Gliese 581 is in the news lately on account of Gliese 581g.

I don't have to tell you where I'm going with this , do I?  Hint:
Three to seven billion years head start.

Oh, and by the way, you shouldn't assign military personnel more
credibility than they deserve.  At best they live in a bubble, at
worst they're full on Kool-aid junkies.  Been there.  Seen it.
Generalizations -- particularly worshipful ones -- aren't helpful.

Best, Jeff Davis

 "Everything's hard till you know how to do it."
                      Ray Charles