[ExI] Eliezer S. Yudkowsky, Singularitarian Principles. Update?

Darren Greer darren.greer3 at gmail.com
Fri Nov 12 16:59:35 UTC 2010


>>I say the Singularity will be a positive thing regardless of what anyone
else says because, and this is the important bit, the power of my
expectations positively manifested WILL create utopia<<

How can an expectation affect an outcome when we move beyond the point
(singularity) where stochastic predictions and expectations based on them
are no longer possible?

Darren

2010/11/12 Singularity Utopia <singularity.utopia at yahoo.com>

> Thanks Richard Loosemore, regarding the SL4 route to contact Eliezer,
> that's exactly the info I needed.
>
> John Grigg, you say I may not be allowed to stay long on the SL4 list? Why
> is this, are Singularitarians an intolerant group leaning towards fascism?
>
> Spike, you say Eliezer's theme was: "The singularity is coming regardless.
> Let us work to make it a positive thing."... and you say: "My constructive
> criticism of your earlier posts was that your theme is: the singularity will
> be a positive thing regardless."
>
> Yes it is my intention to make the Singularity a positive thing regardless.
> I say the Singularity will be a positive thing regardless of what anyone
> else says because, and this is the important bit, the power of my
> expectations positively manifested WILL create utopia. It is all about my
> determination, self-belief, the power of expectations, self-confidence,
> confidence in my abilities. You may think my confidence is blind, misguided,
> or foolishly overconfident but I assure you I will create utopia even if I
> have to do it all on my own, battling against a legion of pessimists. In a
> sane world I cannot see why Eliezer would think my attitude would be
> annoying or dangerous, but the world is insane therefore irrational
> responses to my views are likely.
>
> I actually think people who are overly-obsessed with friendly AI are very
> dangerous due to their misguided attempts to attain rationality and
> "overcome bias". My following webpage regarding the dangerous nature of
> people obsessed with friendly-AI could possibly enlighten you:
>
> http://singularity-2045.org/ai-dangerous-hostile-unfriendly.html
>
> Spike you say: "The singularity is not necessarily a good thing, but we
> know that a no-singularity future is a bad thing."
>
> I assure you the Singularity WILL absolutely without doubt be a good thing
> but this will not be through my inaction, it will because the power of my
> intellect positively manifested has made the Singularity a good thing. I
> will utilize a Self-Fulfilling Prophecy, which I have previously mentioned.
> Furthermore a negative intelligence explosion would oxymoronic-intelligence.
> Intelligence will be "intelligent" therefore the explosion will be utopian
> if truly intelligent people define "intelligence". The problem with some
> people who think they are intelligent is that they are misguided about the
> definition of intelligence, they are actually rather stupid.
>
> I will utilize the concept of self-fulfilling prophecy to create utopia.
> There is no need to doubt the future. Utopia is coming. Rest assured you can
> expect utopia. I encourage you all to put in the extra effort to make it
> happen sooner instead of later. I am the Singularity! I am utopia.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-fulfilling_prophecy
>
> Regarding the fallacy of "Overcoming Bias" I will soon publish a rebuttal
> on my blogs. The desire to overcome bias is in itself a bias but such
> pseudo-rational people are unaware of their bias due to the fact they are
> "bias-deniers" (bias-fascists): they are overcoming bias thus they are
> creating a blind-spot regarding their bias. Bias cannot be overcome, but if
> you try to overcome it you will decrease you self-awareness.
>
> http://yudkowsky.net/rational/overcoming-bias
>
> Here is my forthcoming blog (in progress) regarding "the Bias of overcoming
> Bias":
>
> The major bias plaguing so-called rationalists is their glaring blind-spot
> regarding the power of Self-fulfilling Prophecy.
>
> Contrary to their biased assertions (that bias should be overcome), I state
> bias is a fundamental part of human consciousness. Bias should be utilized
> constructively, it should be not transcended. Self-fulfilling Prophecy is a
> preeminent usage of bias. The solution is to be highly aware. To transcend
> bias is tantamount to lobotomizing the mind. Bias is the heart of
> evaluation, judgment, existence. We are biased regarding pain and pleasure
> for example. If we were not biased regarding pain and pleasure we would be
> mindless robots. Do Transhumanists seek the evolution of the human organism
> to a point where we are stoical machines indifferent to emotions?
>
> Wishful-thinking, positive-thinking, and overconfidence can be very
> effective when applied via keen intellect. Sadly the so-called
> "rationalist-less-wrong" movement (overcoming bias) and similar
> Transhuman-futurist-cliques are deficient in intellect. Furthermore they are
> unaware of their intellectual deficiencies due to their bias; they are
> biased about bias thus they want to overcome it, but they are unaware of
> there bias.
>
> http://www.overcomingbias.com is good example of flawed thinking.
>
> Sadly I suspect the proponents of overcoming bias and other similar
> endeavours will be negatively-biased regarding my contributions?
>
> Regards
>
> Singularity Utopia
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-fulfilling_prophecy
>
> http://singularity-2045.org/hyper-mind-explosion.html
>
> http://singularity-2045.org/
>
> Here is an article I wrote about subjectivity/objectivity a while ago:
>
>
> http://spacecollective.org/SingularityUtopia/6133/Objectivity-Fallacy-a-plea-for-increased-subjectivity
>
> UTOPIA IS COMING!
>
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