[ExI] Eliezer S. Yudkowsky, Singularitarian Principles. Update?

[Natasha Vita-More]

A few short points:

Currently on the SI4 list is a discussion on the "Simple Friendliness Plan B
for AI" which may cover SU's query. So, SU - join that list and read the
latest posts.  

CEV (for anyone who does not know the acronym is "Coherent Extrapolated
Volition" of humanity.

On another point, I hope folks drop the phrase Existential Risk and use the
phrase Human Existence Risk or anything else.  


Natasha Vita-More

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Subject: Re: [ExI] Eliezer S. Yudkowsky, Singularitarian Principles. Update?


On Nov 12, 2010, at 2:33 PM, BillK wrote:

> On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 9:11 PM, Aleksei Riikonen wrote:
> <snip>
>> As Eliezer notes on his homepages that you have read, the primary way 
>> to contact him is email. It's just that he gets so much email, 
>> including from a large number of crazy people, that he of course 
>> doesn't answer them all. (You, unfortunately, are one of those crazy 
>> people who pretty surely will be ignored. So in the end, on this 
>> matter it would be appropriate of you to accept that -- like all 
>> people -- Eliezer should have the right to choose who he spends his 
>> time talking to, and that he most likely would not want to correspond 
>> with you.)
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> As I understand SU's request, she doesn't particularly want to enter a 
> dialogue with Eliezer. Her request was for an updated version of The 
> Singularitarian Principles
> Version 1.0.2     01/01/2000   marked 'obsolete' on Eliezer's website.
> 
> Perhaps someone could mention this to Eliezer or point her to more 
> up-to-date writing on that subject?  Doesn't sound like an 
> unreasonable request to me

This is indeed a very sensible request.  I am a bit annoyed by the number of
times I have attempted to refer to various papers in talks with SIAI people
only to be told that that paper or statement is "now
obsolete" without being offered any up-to-date versions.    I have heard
that the CEV is either "out-of-date" or still the main idea/goal so many
times that I don't know what to believe about it except that the SIAI hasn't
kept its own position documents  and working theories up to date.

- samantha

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