[ExI] The Catholic Impact (was Re: Origin of ethics and morals)

[Anders Sandberg]

On 2011-12-21 03:48, John Grigg wrote:
> We could have a whole separate discussion about how the massive
> immigration to Europe of fundamentalist Muslims may be potentially a
> very destabilizing thing.

I am curious as an European where these massive hordes are. They mainly 
seem to be visible from across the Atlantic.

[ Basically most European Muslims (~6% of the total population) are 
moderate, but suffers guilt by association because a few are 
fundamentalist. Typical outgroup bias ("we are very different 
individually, but *they* are all the same" - this is of course why 
Europeans think Americans are religious fundamentalists).

Surveys show that European Muslims are almost as worried about 
fundamentalism as non-Muslims
http://www.pewglobal.org/2006/07/06/muslims-in-europe-economic-worries-top-concerns-about-religious-and-cultural-identity/
http://www.pewglobal.org/2011/07/21/muslim-western-tensions-persist/
but that the real problem might be outsidership and limited economic 
opportunities causing resentment. Not to mention the blame game of who 
is responsible for bad things and what ought to be changed.

I am far more worried by big organized mainstream groups like political 
parties and churches pushing religious and conservative agendas. ]

-- 
Anders Sandberg
Future of Humanity Institute
Oxford University