[ExI] General comment about all this quasi-libertarianism discussion

Rafal Smigrodzki rafal.smigrodzki at gmail.com
Thu Mar 3 04:03:12 UTC 2011

On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 1:40 PM, Damien Sullivan
<phoenix at ugcs.caltech.edu> wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 01:15:40PM -0500, Richard Loosemore wrote:
>> You are still telling me that in your opinion libertarianism would work
>> (= unsupported speculation, = mere philosophizing), whereas I am asking
>> you to ante up and give me some objective evidence to back up this
>> claim, by pointing to some code (or equivalent scientific evidence) that
>> shows that human societies would not break down under those
>> circumstances.
> In particular, are libertarian societies robust in the face of
> foreign invasion
> inequalities of wealth
> environmental degradation
> disease
### You may dismiss me as biased, but I think the problem with
libertarians is not that we are wrong but that we are so uncommon that
you can't (yet) build a society out of us.

Once I upload myself, I will make myself into a provably cooperative
agent implementing some basic rules (strict commitment to honoring
contracts, assured self-destruction if faced with direct mental
control, perhaps a hard-wired commitment to reciprocal exchange with
similar agents, and a hard-wired commitment to uphold some
second-order social values, such as pluralism) and we'll see if I and
my congeners can copy ourselves to become a (non-monopolistic) force
to be reckoned with.

Until then of course, I'd agree with Eugen that our little discourse
here is mostly BS and philosophizing.


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