[ExI] Two Japanese reactors on red alert
rpwl at lightlink.com
Wed Mar 16 12:59:49 UTC 2011
Eugen Leitl wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 08:02:40AM -0400, Richard Loosemore wrote:
>> Actually it's the facts as determined by statistical naifs -- turkeys on
>> Christmas eve who look back at the statistical likelihood that anything
>> bad will happen, given how swimmingly things have been going so far....
> It is worse -- looking just on safety of electricity-producing
> systems is a complete strawman.
> We need to substitute oil, gas and coal
> (see that irrelevant pink line?) *sustainably* and
> There is no Moore's law working for us here. Doubling from
> 1% to 2% is "easy" (it actually costs a lot of money), but
> further doublings take almost double the financial resources,
> and face production and installation bottlenecks.
> Infrastructure issues like production and distribution of
> synfuels and syngases as well as grid updates are not even
> addressed there.
Agreed. We may disagree about a bunch of other issues, Eugen, but here
we are on the same page.
Perhaps my only point of difference is that I believe that upcoming AGI
(or pre-AGI) systems will be useful for helping us to manage very
complex systems. Thus:
First application of AGI: organic husbandry (with simple, low-energy
robots, an organic farm can run with little or no use of outside fuel,
and be more productive and less ecologically damaging than a
petro-farm). The idea here is that *intelligence* is needed to get
things done organically, not petrochemicals.
Second application of AGI: safe nuclear energy. Similar arguments, but
on a larger industrial scale. Most of the problems with nuclear are the
need for extreme amounts of sustained intelligence, in the design and
running of the system.
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