[ExI] Cephalization, proles--Where is government going?

[Rafal Smigrodzki]

On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 8:41 AM, Richard Loosemore <rpwl at lightlink.com> wrote:
>
> I live in the U.S., and in fact I live right on top of the Marcellus Shale.
>  And I know the technology.  Not only that, but I get the news reports from
> the Pennsylvania counties just south of here where disasters are happening.
>
### Yeah, the biggest fracking-related disaster here in Williamsport
where I am doing some assignments now is the flourishing of
prostitution to service the virile and well-paid young males who
frack.

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> And the lake just a few miles away from where I live has been used as a
> dumping ground for the fluids, so some friends of mine who live on that lake
> can now go swim in  the pollutants if they want.

### And the Devil himself has been sighted there, too!

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>
> Like many right-wing people, you think you can cover your ignorance by
> simply accusing the well-informed people on the other side of the ignorance
> you are guilty of.

### I am so non-right-wing you can't even imagine it.

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 First grade BS, I am afraid.
>
> So, to prove it:  show the evidence:
>
> 1)  Give me the details of what chemicals are being used by Chesapeake
> Energy in its fracking operations.  Full chemistry, please.  Apparently you
> are privy to information that the lawmakers in Pennsylvania and New York
> have been unable to extract from companies such as Chesapeake.

### Water, sand, bleach, detergent, oil. That's standard. If you want
more details, you can easily get samples and analyze them. After all,
the lake is full of it, no?

Do you realize how incoherent your allegations are? One one hand you
say there are "pollutants in the lake", on the other hand you say
nobody (except the evil capitalist exploiters) knows what is in the
fracking fluid.

Chemical analysis isn't that difficult. You have to choose your
poisoning accusation, either known or unknown, but not both.

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>
> 2)  Give me the evaluation, by unbiassed experts, of the "literally dozens
> of ways of cleaning fracking fluids, some of them are quite cheap and are
> being used routinely in US operations".

### Sand is removed by filtration (1) or sedimentation (2). Oil is
removed by skimming (3), flocculation (4), or bioremediation, which
involves simple ponds (5) or various aerated reactors (6) and aerated
beds (7). Bleach can be removed by aeration (8), absorption on
activated coal (9), chemical inactivation with various organic
compounds (10). Detergents are removed by phytoremediation (11), and
other forms of bioremediation. Residual methane just blows itself off
(12).

It actually is all rather cheap, although not as cheap as re-using the
fluid for more fracking.

Rafal