[ExI] Monetary Evolution Now! was REVOLUTION NOW!

Giulio Prisco giulio at gmail.com
Thu Nov 10 10:29:34 UTC 2011


I fear constructive discussion between people hormonally attached to
their obsolete political memes is impossible and a waste of time for
all.

I think dialogue between reasonable libertarians and socialists is
possible, but dialogue between zealot gun-loving sociopaths who want
freedom for their group and oppression for others, and zealot
nanny-state control-freaks and thought cops who want to control the
life and mind of others, is not.

We should build a new political system for reasonable free agents in a
reasonable and open society. It is a very difficult task, but very
worth.

2011/11/10 Amon Zero <amon at doctrinezero.com>:
> On 10 November 2011 10:03, Giulio Prisco <giulio at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Just posted on Amon's blog:
>>
>> Capitalism can be good:
>>
>> Smart and hard working baker Joe knows how to make good bread. He
>> finds a capitalist partner and opens a bakery. At the beginning he
>> works in the bakery himself with his family, then he hires some
>> workers. Then he opens a few other bakeries, treats and pays his
>> workers well, and continues to make good bread and sell it at
>> reasonable prices. Everyone wins, Joe and his family, the workers, the
>> investors, and the rest of us who can eat good bread.
>>
>> And capitalism can be bad:
>>
>> Finance shark Jim bribes his buddies in government to pass regulations
>> that put Joe (and all other small bakers) out of business. Then he
>> opens a chain of bakeries that produce tasteless and toxic bread and
>> sell it at outrageous prices. Of course, he continues to bribe his
>> buddies in government to protect his monopoly. After a few years he is
>> a billionaire who scams financial markets to bring entire currencies
>> and economies down. He owns banks protected by the government and
>> bailed out with citizen’s money when he needs. Every few years he (and
>> his buddies in government) engineer a financial crisis to force people
>> out of their homes and buy them back cheap. Everybody loses but Jim
>> and his buddies.
>>
>> I suggest that we forget the terms “capitalism” or “anti-capitalism”,
>> and just build a system where Joe’s methods work and Jim’s methods
>> don’t.
>
>
> My response there (re-posting because it not only includes another lame joke
> FTW, but sums up the essence of what I'm getting at):
>
> "Yes, well said Giulio!
>
> Now, we know of several possible solutions to this dilemma already. I
> mentioned Socialism, Communism, Fascism, & Technocracy in the original blog
> post. Libertarianism wasn't mentioned, but also seems to qualify. I myself
> proposed a form of radical democracy (if we want to call it that).
>
> I'm inclined to think that we should set issues of solutions to one side,
> just for a moment, and try to identify the meme which these various groups
> hold in common: A diagnosis of a problem within society. I would argue that
> such problems represent imbalances, but it occurs just now that this sounds
> like the Medieval medical theory of "humours" applied to the "body of
> society".
>
> So we could call it "Humourism"!   ;-)
>
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