[ExI] Digital Consciousness .

[Stathis Papaioannou]

On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 2:11 AM, Brent Allsop
<brent.allsop at canonizer.com> wrote:

> Oh and Stathis said:
>
> <<<<
> There is an argument from David Chalmers which proves that computers
> can be conscious assuming only that (a) consciousness is due to the
> brain and (b) the observable behaviour of the brain is computable.
> Consciousness need not be defined for the purpose of the argument
> other than vaguely: you know it if you have it. This makes the
> argument robust, not dependent on any particular philosophy of mind or
> other assumptions. The argument assumes that consciousness is NOT
> reproducible by a computer and shows that this leads to absurdity. As
> far as I am aware no-one has successfully challenged the validity of
> the argument.
>
> http://consc.net/papers/qualia.html
>>>>
>
> Stathis, I think we’ve made much progress on this issue, since you’ve lat
> been involved in the conversation.  I’m looking forward to see if we can now
> convince you that we have, and that there is a real possibility of a
> solution to the Chalmers’ conundrum you believe still exists.
>
> I, for one, am in the camp that believes there is an obvious problem with
> Chalmer’s “fading dancing’ qualia argument, and once you understand this,
> the solution to the ‘hard problem’, objectively, simulatably, sharably (as
> in effing of the ineffable) goes away, no fuss, no muss, all falsifiably or
> scientifically demonstrably (to the convincing of all experts) so.  Having
> an experience like: “oh THAT is what your redness is like – I’ve never
> experienced anything like that before in my life, and was a that kind of
> ‘redness zombie’ before now.” Will certainly falsify most bad theories out
> there today, especially all the ones that predict that kind of sharing or
> effing of the ineffable will never be possible.

The paper cited has nothing to do with the "Hard Problem" or the
possibility of sharing experiences. It is just a proof that computers
can be conscious.


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Stathis Papaioannou