[ExI] phony google

Christopher Whipple crw at crwbot.com
Thu Aug 8 17:22:38 UTC 2013


http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2011/03/google-spends-1-million-on-censorship-and-throttling-detection/

http://www.google.com/transparencyreport/traffic/#expand=TJ

-c.


On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 7:37 AM, spike <spike at rainier66.com> wrote:

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> *>…* *On Behalf Of *Dave Sill
> *Subject:* Re: [ExI] phony google****
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> On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 2:30 PM, Mike Dougherty <msd001 at gmail.com> wrote:**
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> >>…"Avoid Windows" feels to me like advice of the kind "wear a tinfoil
> hat" or "leave the TV on when you're not home."****
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> >…No, not "tinfoil hat" advice, but based on common sense… you'll need to
> remain vigilant and cautious with whichever platform you choose.-Dave****
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> Hmmm, ja, but diligence, vigilant and caution are all irrelevant if I have
> no tools to detect something like a phony Google.  ****
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> If this occurs to me, then Google would surely have been on this exact
> question back before the dawn of time.  A few days ago, I downloaded a free
> app and somehow allowed Delta Search to embed itself in my operating
> system.  It brutally replaced Google in every preference setting and stayed
> there even after I did a search and delete on every file known to be
> associated in any way with Delta.  My virus checker was helpless in its
> grip, my cookie cutters, my ad alert software, nothing could cure it.  I
> went online and was astonished to see actual debate among internet hipsters
> about how to get rid of Delta Search.  Now THAT is one hell of a software
> infection.  Delta Search is the AIDS of computer viruses.****
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> Had Delta Search called itself Google instead, I would never know it was
> there, would not go to the trouble of struggling for hours to get rid of
> it.  With that technology, any company could make actual money by subtly
> inserting ads, hijacking this or that, redirecting, even filtering search
> results by political or religious flavor.  That would be worth a FORTUNE!
> A company could use whatever Delta Search is doing, then redirect the
> stampeding herd over the cliff of its choosing.  All of us unsuspecting
> senior citizens  (WAIT, rather I meant of course THOSE OTHER senior
> citizens, not including me at all) would have not a clue.****
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> Could you imagine the value of something like being able to filter out
> news stories slanted to the right or to the left?  They could even take
> existing news stories, modify them slightly to change the political slant
> of an article, then pass it along as the original.  That is POWER!  ****
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> There would be plenty of the younger market who are too distracted trying
> to learn the latest on Justin Beeber to have any clue that some greedy
> (NTTAWWT) capitalist owns everything they search on, controls everything
> they see, filters every internet action for fun and profit.****
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> All that vigilance is useless if we don’t know what to look for or how to
> fix it once we get suspicious.****
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> Anyone know if Google has a way to detect if there is an evil third party
> intervening?  Could they rig some kind of authenticity code somehow, so
> that if there is a few hundred millisecond delay caused by an intermediate
> party doing something between themselves and an internet user, they could
> catch the bastards?  Who do we ask at Google?****
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> spike****
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