[ExI] peak fossil by 2020

[Eugen Leitl]

On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 01:04:04PM -0600, Jeff Davis wrote:
> Thanks, John.

I don't see what you're thanking him for, but I guess there's
a reason why it's 2013, and we're more fucked than ever.

If total peak fossil is indeed only 7 years away, and if the
net energy cliff of it looks even remotely like oil
net energy decline
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-L_lp0BzWamM/UQ4eCC_r6RI/AAAAAAAAHdg/bGYr9h_cUfw/s1600/sunset+of+petroleum_html_781e6bbe.png
that's gonna be hella party. Stock up on party hats
and confetti.
 
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> On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 11:36 AM, John Clark <johnkclark at gmail.com> wrote:
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> > On Mon, Mar 25, 2013  Eugen Leitl <eugen at leitl.org> wrote:
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> >> > This is considerably worse than I expected:
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> >> http://www.energywatchgroup.org/fileadmin/global/pdf/EWG-update2013_long_18_03_2013.pdf
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> > I confess I was a bit put off by one of the first sentences in the article
> > "the shortage of fossil and nuclear energy resources [...]" . It turns out
> > that by "nuclear energy resources" they mean U 235 and only U 235, a
> > whopping .007 of mined Uranium. The latent energy locked up in U238 that
> > can be released in breeders is not even mentioned. Now don't get me wrong
> > I'm not a great fan of Uranium breeders, but you should at least mention
> > them. And far far worse the word "Thorium" is not used in the entire long
> > article, not once. A shortage of nuclear energy resources?
> >
> > Also the term "Methane Clathrate" is not used one time in the article even
> > though it contains twice as much energy as all the world's petroleum, coal,
> > natural gas, oil shale, and every other fossil fuel combined. I think
> > something like that at least deserves a mention even if you later dismiss
> > it for some reason, but they're pretending it doesn't exist. A shortage of
> > fossil fuel energy resources?
> >
> >   John K Clark
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