[ExI] kepler study says 8.8e9 earthlike planets

[Tomaz Kristan]

John K Clark

> I can think of a pretty good excuse, the telescope on Kepler ...

Can't disagree. But then also all other "optimistic" claims abut all other
exo-planets are quite void, too.


Here, how jubilant are some:

http://seagerexoplanets.mit.edu/research.htm




On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 5:49 PM, John Clark <johnkclark at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 3:24 AM, Kelly Anderson <kellycoinguy at gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > While it is possible to evolve very good tentacles underwater, nothing
>> like hands has evolved underwater. Part of the problem is that water tends
>> to evolve creatures that are streamlined. Hands, are clearly not very
>> streamlined. Could tentacles lead to intelligence? Perhaps. But without
>> high rates of speciation, it would take much longer in the ocean than on
>> land.
>>
>
> I think it would be almost impossible for sea creatures, however smart
> they were, to develop technology. The laws of Newtonian Physics were hard
> enough to discover for humans who lived in a atmosphere not in a vacuum,
> but it would be astronomically harder under water; there things NEVER move
> at the same speed unless a force is constantly applied, and intelligent
> fish wouldn't have the motions of the stars and planets to help them figure
> out basic physics. Even humans would never have discovered Quantum
> Mechanics if they hadn't figured out a way to make a vacuum first.  And
> intelligent fish would lack one of the first and most important inventions,
> fire.
>
>   John K Clark
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